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"It's called precedent," the Senate Judiciary Committee chair said of violating the same rule that Republicans ignored to move forward with judicial nominees.

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[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 184 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's about time Dems started using the same tactics the GOP uses. Whiny hypocrites can't stand when the tables are turned.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 56 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Still I understand why they hesitate. It basically drags our government permanently into shitty behavior. This is why they don't start this stuff but reluctantly utilize it. You don't want to be known as the guy going for the balls but if that is how the opponent is going to fight whelp then I guess we are ballers.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago

Democracy is a fist fight. I've grown tired watching Democrats spend their time wringing hands and clutching pearls.

THIS? This is good stuff. Get in the fray, fight for what's right, for us, for results. I'm enjoying this.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 25 points 9 months ago

This is a good opportunity to do it, and very calculated. Skipping the discussion portion would have no impact as it wouldn't have changed the vote, and it's the third discussion, so two already occurred. Its a "safe" way to demonstrate rules can't be dodged by one side.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Nope. Same rules should apply for both. They should not be the least bit reluctant to use the same tools the Republicans do. If the Republicans are breaking rules then the Democrats need to break the same rules. If the Republicans don't like it, they can stop breaking the rules whenever they feel like it.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 11 points 9 months ago

I think until anyone in government sees consequences of their actions then nothing will change. If it's used against them, maybe they'll help legislate against it

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[–] MayvisDelacour@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Hear fuckin hear my friend! It's about damn time!

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 132 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When Blackburn said again she wanted to talk, Cotton interjected, “Now I guess Sen. Durbin is not going to allow women to speak either. I thought that was sacrosanct in your party!”

Man, they thoroughly do not understand equality.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The GOP leadership consists of extremely manipulative sociopaths; they will say literally anything to benefit themselves or hurt others. They will weaponize anything with no shame and no hesitation. Everything they do is in bad faith.

Equality? They understand it but don't want it. Equality and fairness is the opposite of what they aspire to. They view themselves as better and therefore rules should benefit them and hurt others, to paraphrase the well known quote.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago

"The GOP leadership consists of extremely manipulative sociopaths"

A-fucking-men.

Understand this and you understand everything the GOP leadership says. It's never good faith, ever.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

They are not fools. They are evil. We will be fools if we do not internalize that reality.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Why would I want equality when I'm better than all these assholes?

---any republican

[–] flipht@kbin.social 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They understand. They just know if they say the shitty thing, it will give their bubba voters a misogyny hardon, which translates directly to votes.

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't get it: are they saying that their party doesn't let women speak and now Democrats are acting like them? It seems extremely backwards.

The question is mostly rhetorical, I understand exactly what's happening, I just can't help but jackie_chan_face.jpg

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are saying, "women dumb, lololol!" They're literally just petty children in adult bodies. There is no deeper point.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This. It's all a giant, "Nuh-uh, you!"

They create a specious argument, present it as a straw man of "what democrats want," and then ridicule it as if they didn't make the whole thing up themselves.

It's dumb as shit, but it's all on purpose. These people are ivy League lawyers who took speech and debate. They know what a fallacy is, they just choose to use it for its effectiveness in mass psychology rather than actually governing or leading.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yep. The leaders use it as petty distraction, and their petty followers eat it up while they have their pockets picked clean.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Right, if conservative women weren't fucking stupid (which they have to be to be conservatives), they'd know he was admitting Republicans don't care about them.

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[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (8 children)

“Cotton got so mad he started talking about himself in the third person.

“Mr. Cotton says the chairman needs to rethink his decision,” said Cotton, as his name came up in the roll call. “That’s what Mr. Cotton says.””

Lmao imagine getting you mad about the same tactics you supported, that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Mr. Cotton: "How dare you use Mr. Cotton's dirty tricks against Mr. Cotton!"

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

I think from that point on I would refuse to call him any thing other than Mr Cotton, and always in a drawn out child-story like way.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Mr Cotton is getting upset!

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

George is getting upset!

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't. It seems like an oddly specific trait of his.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

Bob Dole used to do it. Back when he was alive, I mean.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

That's weird. When the right is gaslighting others about injecting deeply radical activist judges into the system, they claim that judges should just be calling balls and strikes and so on. And now they are screaming about what are most likely center-right judges, LOL.

The butthurt is strong with the GOP, that's for sure.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

once you assume that everything they say and do is about manipulating the system to gain as much power as possible, then using that power to reward loyalists and inflict violence on people they don't like, everything starts to make sense. at this point the republican party is an attempt at a junta in the US.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago

Once you realize that they don't give a damn about the rules you know how to deal with them.

Vote all of them out.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

They just have no morals only self enrichment. They aren't butt hurt, they are evil.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 62 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This article totally misses the point: they didn't care about the judges. They were trying to run out the clock to prevent subpoenas of major conservative donors to the Supreme Court from getting out of committee.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4335581-senate-gop-stages-hearing-walkout-to-protest-supreme-court-related-subpoenas/

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Republicans generally count on news media missing the point of their shenanigans.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago

Clarence is trying to fuck around without finding out. I hope he finds out.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago

Push them through Durbin up until the very last minute! Republicans made new rules to follow of their own accord previously so follow them.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some children hate their logic thrown back at them.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Putting all pieces and cards back in a hurry and taking the monopoly box home kind-of political strategy.

[–] JunkMilesDavis@kbin.social 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I kind of wish everyone who set foot in that room was fitted with a device that electrically zaps them every time they say some disingenuous bullshit. It's always so uncomfortable to watch, and they know exactly what they're doing.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was saying the other day we need a neutral third party the hangs around Congress and every time they do something unconstitutional or stupid, the whole ~~class~~ room has to watch Schoolhouse Rock episodes about civics.

Every time.

[–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's so hard to find a neutral observer when on party keeps trying to drag us back to the dark ages. How do you debate people that think a cosmic entity is personally planning out their lives.

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[–] cozz33@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I reject modern political labels but would say I lean slightly right. Over the years I’ve wrote to many of our politicians but Mr. Durbin is the only one who actually gave me the time of day, and for that he has my respect.

[–] Pilkins@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Same, actually. He's the only office I've gotten a response from that shows my letter was actually read. Everyone else just sends the generic canned reply back.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Reverse UNO.

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