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[–] flicker@kbin.social 116 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm white. I have blue eyes. And when I was young, my hair was red. I was working retail, and this old lady said "Merry Christmas."

Me: "Happy Holidays!"

Her: "It's Merry Christmas. I know your boss doesn't like it, but you should say it to me. So Merry Christmas."

Me: "Are you Christian?"

Her: "Yes."

Me: "Well, I'm not. So Happy Holidays."

She got so stunned, like I'd slapped her. I was quite ready to get called in for being some kind of way with a customer but I guess she was too afraid of dealing with a heathen. Still, if you've ever worked retail, you'd know why this felt like a victory.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully you're young enough that you didn't have to deal with the christmas cd on repeat

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Young enough? You realise that's still what they play in stores where people work retail?

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Well they don't have CDs anymore, so how would they repeat the music?

Good grief, did this really need a /s?

[–] pantherfarber@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

There's like 10 Christmas songs. All of them have hundreds of different versions. Doesn't matter if your not hearing the exact same song. Your hearing the same songs on repeat. My last retail job the muzak box was accessible to everyone in the office so as soon as I would get there I would change the channel.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago

The radio does the exact same thing.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I worked in a video arcade in the 90s and we had a 1-hour VHS tape on repeat showing on TVs all over the arcade featuring recent music videos, cartoons, etc. That Christmas, 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' came out and it was on that tape. I heard that song every day of December, 8 times a day, 40 times a week, 160 times that month in total.

I hate that song so much more than everyone else does.

I currently work in retail and OH MY GODS I FELT THE

T R I U M P H

THROUGH MY PHONE.

[–] famousringo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

Wish them a joyous Yuletide. A cheerful solstice. A felicitous December.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 10 months ago (3 children)

People that say this are so silly.

You're not being oppressed. It's just that saying merry Christmas to a crowd of diverse backgrounds is like wishing your mum a happy fathers day. She won't be mad or offended, she'll just think she should have breastfed you.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago

No you don't understand, if I can't force everyone to be exactly like me that means I'm being oppressed!

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I say Happy Holidays to someone I know who obviously doesn't celebrate Christmas.

Also, it is weird for conservative Americans to be offended not greeting "Happy Christmas", when the migrant ancestors of modern Americans did not celebrate it as a holiday until more recently. Protestants thought celebrating Christmas is a Catholic abomination. Look how tables have turned and acting hypocritical as always...

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 10 months ago

Most "traditions", including holiday traditions, food culture, etc, are incredibly recent things. But people cling to it like they are the totality of their identify.

[–] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's different in the US and other cultures, but as an atheist I've never seen the phrase as a very religious thing. I say "merry Christmas" and "happy holidays" indistinctly and I've never seen anyone offended by the use of either, independtly of their faith (or lack thereof).

I say "merry Christmas" on the actual Christmas day though.

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[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I have a neighbor just like this who INSISTS this is a Christian country and it's Christmas break not WiNtEr break. Satan's greetings from ya main witch! ✨🥰

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I always like the "Put Saturn back in Saturday" retort

I'm stealing this, I hope you know.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

First time I've heard someone upset over calling it "winter break." People are wild

[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

People are wild, they forget that sometimes. And some of those wild people really do love being victims, even if it is self made drama lol

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

True story...

At work in my department they told us we can put decorations in our (at home!) office but to try and stay religiously neutral. Meanwhile in my friend's department (same employer) they got an email to wish employees a happy Easter back in April, happy Mawlid (celebration of Muhammad's birth) back in September and happy Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah in October...

I'm an atheist so I don't celebrate any of these things and to me holidays should just be spread equally to give people long weekends, but I can't help but laugh at the hypocrisy when it comes to Christmas compared to all other holidays through the year...

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's honestly refreshing to hear that your friends department encouraged them to celebrate multiple different religious holidays. There shouldn't be any problem celebrating religious holidays as long as they are all given equal considerations and the company doesnt play favorites.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To me anything religious should be treated as such, something private that has nothing to do with your workplace and only secular holidays should exist considering holidays are imposed by the government and there's supposed to be a separation of religion and State (in my country anyway), but I know my opinion on this subject is pretty extreme.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The holidays we have are so commercialized they hardly feel religious to me. Christmas and Easter are just times to spend with family, nothing to do with Jesus.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago

Happy Hondadays.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I prefer to use the real term, not the christian knockoff. Happy Saturnalia everyone!

[–] ItDoBeHowItDoBe@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I think that is is important to note that there is very little real evidence for Christmas being taken from saturnalia. You can google christmas and saturnalia and come up with plenty of web articles, but looking at the actual history of it makes it pretty clear. Christmas takes place around the same time of saturnalia, sure, but that does not make it a Christian stab at replacing it. Saturnalia was traditionally observed between the 17th and 23rd of December, not the 25th. It was a 5-7 day festival, not a one day festival. Additionally, the church is said to have gotten the 25th by taking the day John's father was told he would have a son (shortly after the day of attonement), the new testiment statement that Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when Jesus was conceived, and adding 40 weeks to the end for the average pregnancy. This would put Jesus born in late December. This general time line was documented as being calculated as early as CE 200s.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Enemies of Christmas! To battle! Choose your weapon:

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Obviously the Menorah.

It is made of metal unlike the card and the cup, and it does extra fire damage.

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[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 8 points 10 months ago

Can't I just wield an entire holiday tree? That's what my biofamily hate most.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 10 months ago

I work with people in three different time zones. There is always someone having a flower festival, religious day or national holiday. Nobody gets offended for forgetting a holiday or if they did they don't last long.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago
[–] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

like I am gonna say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. The guy in the $4,000 suit. COME ON!

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The man on the TV said people would get angry at me for saying merry Christmas - the guy in the $6,000 suit - COME ON

[–] exothermic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Yo! saturnalia!

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blasphemy, we celebrate Hondadays in this houshold!!!!

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. Those commercials should die and be erased from history. Let them fall into the inky black chasm of oblivion.

(I really hate those commercials.)

Merry Chrysler! :D

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At the very least make it a Lexus December to Remember Sales Event!

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

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[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Merry Crisis!

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] lemmiter@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Happy Christmas and Merry New Year and Merry Hanukkah !!

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[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

Season gettings 🤮

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe that's actually why they support fascism-lite?

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They only support fascism-lite because it's the next step on the way to pure-fascism.

[–] thatguydude@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

This has been going on for at least 15 years and it has got to stop

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