Mandatory post of my Why not Signal? I wrote a few months ago.

Signal didnt update the source code for the server a whole year, so I would already consider it closed source. Now they are just making it official (but probably still talking about how open they are).

you forgot XMPP as an alternative. For example the snikket project is developing a XMPP ecosystem with clients for every platform.

Purely conspiracy theory here, but this comes just after the reveal that the FBI tried to get user info. Maybe the FBI weren't happy with the lack of records Signal were keeping and this is a compromise. We have seen this sort of thing before. Gov wants info, an extra closed layer is created. If it's not this, the timing is unfortunate.

Anyway, the blog post is very vague. In all those paragraphs they don't even mention how this new implementation works. Just that the way it works now isn't enough. Maybe the interfaces they mention becoming public will help understand it better, but of course the code is closed and unreleased so we'll never really know.

They're probably going to go the way of Reddit. Slowly making their code proprietary until all of it is, taking all community contributions with it.

XMPP, and Matrix are going well. Session I think is an alternative to Signal, but the problem you'll find is how many contacts do you actually have on Session... Matrix is probably the best option as it also can bridge to so many other services.

Weird, I have never once gotten any unsolicited messages on Signal.

i use xmpp for myself. it's absolute god

We got problems around matrix (metadata) and signal (as you seen in the post) but i do not hear much about xmpp is bad :P

I just realised something: if every message is e2ee by default as they claim, how the hell do they plan on spam filtering them from the server side?

It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't required to hand them a phone number and my metadata.

Therefore I'm choosing anonymous platforms.

Other alternatives: https://lbry.tv/@AlphaNerd:8/forks-of-signal-messenger-%28in-case-it:d

Also, in my experience, jami does not work that well.

It can be very tempting to immediately jump on the "ban signal" bandwagon, but I think it would be wise to take a step back and understand where they're coming from.

In reading the blog post their focus is on user privacy as their top priority. I don't believe signal would make this decision without privacy in mind. What's the alternative?

If spammers run rampant, Signal has a bigger privacy nightmare on their hands. Maybe by a miracle you got Grandpa to join you on signal. But a spammer then reached out to him with "hot young singles in your area" and Grandpa just had to click. Now suddenly Grandpa's retirement savings are gone.

So I'm not saying it's not worrisome. I'm saying let's remain open-minded. After all, it's nearly impossible to have 100% open source software in any stack. You're either using an AMD or Intel CPU. They're both closed source, but they allow you to interact with a privacy community.

Who could have seen this coming? Absolutely no one ;)

/s(arcasm)

Is there a Delta Chat group for Lemmy users?

For Briar on Linux, there's Anbox, but at the moment you have to use separate accounts.

I'm here to say this is a welcome addition. I've received 2 spam messages in the last few months, which is an increase from 0 in the last few years I've used Signal. I'm glad they're getting ahead of this cat and mouse game and hope people don't get all paranoid. The client is still open source. Your payloads are all still E2EE.