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"Centralised messenger Signal has just announced that they are making part of their server software closed source. They claim it is to fight spam, but by using closed source they make it impossible for outsiders to verify the truth. This is worrying.

We really, really need a fully open, decentralised alternative to Signal.

There are several alternatives being developed, please support them:

➡️ @matrix

➡️ @delta

➡️ @briar

➡️ @Jami "

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[–] esmail_el_bob@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (1 children)

i use xmpp for myself. it's absolute god

We got problems around matrix (metadata) and signal (as you seen in the post) but i do not hear much about xmpp is bad :P

[–] Lynda@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

My concern about XMPP is how much the server knows about you/contacts. Or you have to install E2EE plugins. Or you have to set it up for Tor. It's annoying. HOWEVER, it does have the advantage of security separation, instead of having it all wrapped up into a single point of failure.

[–] esmail_el_bob@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

look i feel you and indeed XMPP admins can know a lot and even reset your password if they want and but the thing is some xmpp servers are big and i'm sure they will not ruin their reputation that easily.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 3 years ago

Also the huge plus with XMPP is that setting up a raspberry pi at home is pretty easy so there shouldn't be a need for big servers. In the future the one IT person in every Family/Friendgroup could set up snikket and have friends and family use it.

I doubt we will find a chat solution that's more secure than that.