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[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 234 points 8 months ago (3 children)

People playing genders they're not assigned at birth? In theater?!?

😮

[–] Chaser@sopuli.xyz 109 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Shakespeare never would have done this!

[–] Stanard@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My first thought was "wait until they hear about Shakespeare". Literally every role filled by men, sometimes with the script explicitly calling for a man to play a female in full attire.

I'd also hate to see what policies they'll enact for their chorale program when performing historical hymns, where soprano parts specifically called for a male eunuch (castrato) to sing since females were not allowed to attend church services including choirs.

In my younger years I would have been absolutely vilified by these people. I'm probably vilified now, but I would've been then too. In all seriousness though, I cannot believe how far backwards we've gone in all this. I recognize that these thoughts and feelings have existed since before I was a kid but at least back then people seemed to have the decency to mind their own.

But to attack theatre of all things with this gender bullshit is attacking theatre itself. Crossdressing in theatre has existed for as long as theatre has existed. Cross-singing has existed for as long as singing has existed. If they're not teaching that stuff in their performing arts programs, they are denying young adults a quality education of the performing arts.

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[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We banned ShakesSpear and hung him/her in effigy

—Texas, probably

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is a slight difference when we're talking about trans people.

I'd wager they would allow a man to play a woman's role and vice versa. I think this is purely the anti-trans agenda taking hold.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago

Gotta say, their obsession with children’s genitalia really weirds me out.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 8 months ago

Shakespeare would be mortified!

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 130 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This happened in Sherman TX, a town most famous for the Lynching of George Hughes and subsequent riot in 1930, commonly known as the Sherman Riot.

I was tempted to say, "New century, new target of bigotry," but who am I kidding? They never gave up the old target of bigotry, either.

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[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I'm happy to say that after a whole bunch of people showed up at the school board meeting to speak on Max's behalf the school board fully reinstated the original play and it's actors including Max and issued a formal apology. Special thanks to Grayson Pride for leading the effort. https://www.kxii.com/2023/11/14/sherman-isd-board-trustees-votes-reinstate-original-cast-version-oklahoma/

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 77 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (24 children)

Shortly after Hightower’s casting, however, the student was replaced when the school’s principal, Scott Johnston, called Hightower’s father about a new gender policy for student performers.

“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

This sounds like the kind of thing a school would do under the Nazis. I wonder why that is.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck?

“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

When I was in school, they literally didn't have enough students who were good enough to act, so there was so much gender bending. What garbage

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 21 points 8 months ago

During shakespeares time, they did not allow female actors, so all women on stage were played by men.

Shakespeare had men acting in skirts and dresses. Juliet of Romeo and Juliet, a 14 year old girl was played by a man. The kissing between the Capulet heiress and the Montague boy were two men smooching on stage.

Repugnicans are a plague on both your houses (of Parliament)!

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

These people are so fucking clueless. Men playing women in theatre is literally as old as theatre because women literally weren't allowed to.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 8 months ago

Also how that spits in the face of theatrical performances dating at least back to Shakespeare's time, if not further.

I never studied that stuff, but I did date a drama major back in the day.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 72 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I haven't seen Oklahoma! but is there a part where the lead whips out their dong and waves it in front of the audience?

If not, who cares what's in their pants?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Also, prosthetic dongs are a thing, if you prefer to keep the original vision of Oklahoma! intact.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

Wow, I guess the movie really deviated from the source material.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Also, did they verify the new lead is cis? I know a lot of people who have been in theater, there is a surprisingly large percent who aren't cis.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Name literally one actor or theatre person who is gay!?

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

Right? If you’re gonna try to get all the queer kids out of theater you’re gonna have a really hard time.

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[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

You dont remember the classic line

“Ooooooooklamohma where my jizz coms seeping down my pants!”

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[–] TheGIGAcapitalist@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Because Max identifies as a transgender male, he could no longer be cast as the male lead.

I feel like the easy solution is to identify as a cis male...

It is concerning (but unsurprising) how obsessed conservatives are with childrens genitals.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You must cover your genitals at all times! But your coverings must clearly indicate which genitals you have! No one may see your genitals, but everyone needs to be clearly informed of your genitals at all times.

Also the gential signaling coves change over time, but wearing the wrong coverings in the wrong time period is unnatural and makes God mad!

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 49 points 8 months ago (10 children)

The cis kid who was cast to replace the trans kid should refuse on principle. the rest of the staff should, too.

Also conservatives can go fuck themselves.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The cis kid who was cast to replace the trans kid should refuse on principle.

The whole cast and backstage staff should pretend to go along with it until opening night, and then on opening night as the curtains open, they make a short statement about the injustice then walk off stage and go home.

Alternatively, the cast should covertly learn the role of an opposite gender cast member. Then on opening night, the cast members assume their opposite role and perform the whole play ignoring the costume inconsistencies.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

The licensing organization should pull their approval.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is absolutely against theatre traditions.

I was an angsty theatre kid. I would conspire to ruin every and any play for the remainder of my time at that school.

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I feel awful for the involved kids, but look forward to what should be a slam dunk lawsuit.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They do know that acting is pretending to be someone other than yourself, right?

If Jared Leto (🤮) can win an Oscar for portraying a trans woman despite not being trans, then there is absolutely no reason that a trans boy can't play the male lead of a school play. It's acting.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You'd think they would ban Oklahoma! in Texas entirely for daring to be about a state other than Texas.

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[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

They should play one of the female lead characters, but as male.

[–] lethargic_lemming@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

damn, i feel really bad for the kid

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What’s most interesting to me is how Oklahoma! is an utterly poisonous production from the get-go. Every character is a self-absorbed jerk. Judd Fry asks a girl to a dance who only agrees as a ruse to punish the protagonist, who then literally tries to convince the dude to kill himself. The entire show is fucked up.

Any director who isn’t doing something subversive with the content has their head up their own ass. But hey, it’s Texas. 🙃

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago

This is going to help with the School Shootings and Child Poverty and Pastors Raping Children!

[–] MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

I was sipping my coffee and looking out the window listening to the song birds, and then I worried about a trans kid in a school play, now I don't have to worry thanks for taking care of that. What is next.....men dressing up as women to play in Shakespearian plays??

[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago

transphobia and an adult abusing his position of power to hurt a kid, two berserk buttons in one headline

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

They should change it to Seven Brides for Seven Brothers but do it in furry.

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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Since the school is so up in arms about their production of Oklahoma, they should switch gears and do a production of Peter Pan. You know, where the lead is a young boy traditionally played by a female actor.

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[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

Well this will fix the various social crises in that country for sure.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago
[–] Vant@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

Man, what a shitty thing to do. What a shitty person you have to be to do this.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

I'd laugh my butt off if somehow Oklahoma got cancelled after that backwards-ass school "reviewed" its suitability or something like they seemed to be threatening to do in that article...and then got replaced by Peter Pan.

Peter Pan with a trans man in the lead would be so damn good.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I was a tech theater kid and if this bull shit happened I would absolutely sabotage every show.

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