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[–] Cheesus@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For those who don't know, the blue liquid is their blood

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 year ago

Obviously didn't read the meme. It's a blueberry milkshake. Everyone knows blood isn't that color.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why are they draining it in this way? Poor things.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

Here's a description of the bleeding process:

https://www.horseshoecrab.org/med/bestpractices.html

It's specifically non-fatal:

Bleeding horseshoe crabs to death is not an acceptable practice in the U.S.

The volume of blood taken is actually quite small, as most of the material in the collection jars is anticoagulant.

It may look uncomfortable to us humans, but keep in mind that horseshoe crabs are not human. What's normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. Granted, it would be kinda weird to be hoisted from your home by a giant ape and forced into a blood drive. It's done as gently as possible though.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 58 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Unfortunately the practice often results in death anyway. 30% die in the process.

It also has unforseen consequences in the food chain, so by all means we should look for alternatives.

Thankfully alternatives already exist .

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still, I was disappointed to find that a large percentage of released crabs die anyway. Can't find the number, but it's significant. 1/3rd?

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afair estimates put the portion of dead crabs between 10 and 30%. Some might also be unable to reproduce due to the bleeding.

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Sadly a lot of the companies harvesting them will just kill and sell them for bait anyways.

Of those that are released, about a third die. Not to say about the decrease in overall fitness, which can lead to them falling prey more easily.

It's obviously a traumatic experience for the animal in the best case scenario and that is going to reflect on their ability to survive in the wild.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Highest chance of survival/low stress

Edit: many do die still. I don’t want to say it’s safe, just safer

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

That's how blueberry is made Freeze some of this add some structure, let it set, then put it on trees

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So this us basically like a blood farm from vampires? Shit, still surprises me what an evil species we really are.

[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

I kinda agree with you but when you think about it it's not that bad. They are released afterwards and we can use that blood to save countless people, like you and me.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which proves they're all royalty.

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[–] 15liam20@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A pint? That's nearly an arm-full!

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People who know know that the crabs survive and are released back into the wild after their "donation"

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Real talk I'm fine with hurting crabs for our own means. Straight up.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whoa! That's some Human Supremacist talk there.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hell yeah. Whole point is to get the species off the rock, then out of the meat suit

[–] MightyGalhupo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily in that order

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[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Or mammal supremacist. Or vertebrate supremacist. There are options

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

On god, no cap frfr str8 bussin.

[–] MightyGalhupo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Real talk I’m fine with hurting other living beings that aren’t me for my own means. Straight up.

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[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

They're chelicerates though, not crustaceans. But then again, apparently everything evolves into crabs anyway

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If horseshoe crabs were to become less economically important, is that a good thing for horseshoe crabs? They ain't exactly Pandas, so will little Sally and Bobby care if horseshoe crabs become endangered? They're already in a precarious situation...

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Horseshoe crabs have been existing for almost half a billion years, I would genuinely be sad if we endanger them to critical levels

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Climate Change is warming the waters they spawn their eggs in. They're becoming endangered from that. Not because of a few we harvest blood from.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say that harvesting blood is the one thing endangering them, did I. Just that it would be a shame to see them go

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the topic of this thread and even if you didn't say blood harvesting was endangering them, most people are already going to be thinking that's what you're implying.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a fair assumption to make, true.
Idk, I'm just someone who says things exactly the way I think 'em. I don't intend for a deeper meaning to be interpreted, but people are going to do that, because that's just how people are. So again, fair.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think living to have your fluids harvested in factory farms is a worse outcome than going extinct.

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you are any part of nature and also economically important, you get barbarically exploited until you go extinct. If you are not, you will be bulldozed to make room for the former. Capitalism is the best system of morality humans have ever, and will ever, come up with, and I truly cherish the utopia it has brought upon civilization.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Trivia of the day, horseshoe crab blood is blue because it is copper based instead of iron based like our blood

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're actually being fed the blue milk from Star Wars 8

[–] Maultasche@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was green milk. Blue milk is from Episode IV.

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[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s a simple, nearly instantaneous test that goes by the name of the LAL, or Limulus amebocyte lysate, test (after the species name of the crab, Limulus polyphemus). The LAL test replaced the rather horrifying prospect of possibly contaminated substances being tested on “large colonies of rabbits.” Pharma companies didn’t like the rabbit process, either, because it was slow and expensive.

From https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/02/the-blood-harvest/284078/ (emphasis mine).

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