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[–] Cheesus@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For those who don't know, the blue liquid is their blood

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 year ago

Obviously didn't read the meme. It's a blueberry milkshake. Everyone knows blood isn't that color.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why are they draining it in this way? Poor things.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

Here's a description of the bleeding process:

https://www.horseshoecrab.org/med/bestpractices.html

It's specifically non-fatal:

Bleeding horseshoe crabs to death is not an acceptable practice in the U.S.

The volume of blood taken is actually quite small, as most of the material in the collection jars is anticoagulant.

It may look uncomfortable to us humans, but keep in mind that horseshoe crabs are not human. What's normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. Granted, it would be kinda weird to be hoisted from your home by a giant ape and forced into a blood drive. It's done as gently as possible though.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 58 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Unfortunately the practice often results in death anyway. 30% die in the process.

It also has unforseen consequences in the food chain, so by all means we should look for alternatives.

Thankfully alternatives already exist .

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Last I read synthetic LAL was nowhere near scaleable. Bleeding Crabs is very expensive.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still, I was disappointed to find that a large percentage of released crabs die anyway. Can't find the number, but it's significant. 1/3rd?

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afair estimates put the portion of dead crabs between 10 and 30%. Some might also be unable to reproduce due to the bleeding.

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Sadly a lot of the companies harvesting them will just kill and sell them for bait anyways.

Of those that are released, about a third die. Not to say about the decrease in overall fitness, which can lead to them falling prey more easily.

It's obviously a traumatic experience for the animal in the best case scenario and that is going to reflect on their ability to survive in the wild.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

being bled is not my concept of normal for and species

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, I don't mean the "blood donation" being normal. The person I was responding to asked why they were being drained "this way". I assumed they were concerned about the folded-over positioning of the crab.

Also, counter argument (in good fun): plenty of animals get their blood drained regularly in nature. Mosquitos, ticks, leaches, and vampire bats are a few examples of things that drain blood from others. Maybe the crabs see us as giant pests?

Defo not the best arrangement for the crabs though. As others pointed out to me, apparently despite the optimistic wording in the link I shared the process is still fatal to some. I'm glad we're working on alternatives.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Red Cross enters the chat.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Highest chance of survival/low stress

Edit: many do die still. I don’t want to say it’s safe, just safer

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

That's how blueberry is made Freeze some of this add some structure, let it set, then put it on trees

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So this us basically like a blood farm from vampires? Shit, still surprises me what an evil species we really are.

[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

I kinda agree with you but when you think about it it's not that bad. They are released afterwards and we can use that blood to save countless people, like you and me.

Dp you enjoy the widespread availability of injectable medicine? The blood is used to detect impurities in injectable medicine.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which proves they're all royalty.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

King Crab 🦀

[–] 15liam20@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A pint? That's nearly an arm-full!