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It happened to my car last week, it got towed to a mechanic and I'm yet to hear back. I don't know a lot about cars, so I'm hoping I'll learn something here and be able to tell if the mechanic tries to rip me off.

The car is a small hatchback automatic Hyundai Getz, 2009, serviced regularly. I've had it for 6 years with no major issues until about a year or so.

Five days ago I was driving through the city for at least 40 minutes when suddenly, while waiting at the lights, the car shook and for a moment I thought it would stall. I stopped on a side street, waited 20 minutes and resumed my journey.

About an hour later I'm on the motorway and it shakes again. I stop on the shoulder, wait, but it's not a safe area. I start again, only now I have the check engine light on my dashboard blinking. I manage to take an exit and my car stops on its own, the oil and battery lights now visible too. Fortunately there is no traffic here so I wait a minute, start again and park it on the shoulder.

Roadside assistance arrives, the mechanic looks at it and finds nothing wrong with it other than a fuel sensor which is an issue I've had for several years now. We get it towed to a mechanic but they were closing shop by the time I arrived. Before closing the shop mechanic says that at a glance he doesn't see anything, but notes the oil looks very clean.

I've never had the car shake like this. The last time it failed me was early this year, when it overheated during a very hot day, but it didn't shake. I've had the thermostat repaired since as well as a minor coolant leak.

Congrats, you've read this far. Thoughts?

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[–] Bookakke@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Could be all kinds of things. Fuel pump giving up is my first guess.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flashing check engine light means you have a severe misfire.

Probably a coil pack

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That could definitely do that. Had that happen to my GTI; I pulled over as soon as I was able to and parked the car. I checked on an OBD II reader, and the light and shaking was caused by misfiring. I replaced all the coil packs, cleared the code, and it's been fine since.

[–] zdrvr@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not mechanical in any way but it sounds very similar to what happened to me. It turned out to be some issue with the transmission. There is something called overdrive or something like that where when you go in 4th gear it engages and you get better highway fuel economy. The problem was it would engage but would get stuck and not disengage which would stall the engine (and shake the car violently) when coming to a stop. I took it to a mechanic and they gave me an option. Fix it for 2000 or disconnect it for 100. I disconnected it and I lost maybe 1-2mpg while driving freeway. Some cars have a button to turn off overdrive so you could try that if yours does.

[–] zdrvr@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I just looked up your owners manual and you have a switch on your shifter knob to turn off overdrive.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a mobile plant mechanic, but would it run fine before driving?

As in idling and reving?

Knowing that would help diagnose between drivelin issues or engine issues.

Transmission could be fucked or the engine is getting hot and seizing.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, letting it idle and revving wouldn't make it shake. The first mechanic tested that for about 15 minutes. The engine was cold by the time he arrived though.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hmm, seems drive related then so i would say transmission torque converter perhaps. They cause shaking and stall out engines. Or perhaps kickback valve.

[–] Rocky60@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It might be a misfire on one of the cylinders. Try to find somebody with a scanner. It would be interesting to see what comes up

[–] fosiacat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

misfiring, could be coils, plugs, injectors, could be worse (like a bad piston could be blown engine, not unusual for a Hyundai) unlikely fuel pump IMO.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like a lot of people here, my first thought is misfire, which means either plugs, cables, or coils/coilpack.

My second thought is it could be a vacuum leak.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've reading a bit after all these answers. I figure coils or plugs would show up on a scan, which the roadside mechanic did and only turned up the already known fuel sensor issue, as I mentioned on the post.

I'm starting to get the feeling it might be something transmission / torque related, which I hope is not the case as it sounds very expensive.

You are the first one suggesting vacuum leak, will keep in mind. Cheers

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, a couple months back I was doing some work on my car and when I was done I did a test start and it started right up. The next morning though it wouldn't start. After giving it a little gas I could get it to...idle, per say, but it sounded terrible. Like Satan spray-shitting hammers and nails into a sheet-metal toilet. At that point though I was able to look in the engine bay with the car running and I could hear an audible hissing - the vacuum line going to the brake booster snapped in two. It must've been torqued weird when I was moving the intake manifold around. I rigged it back together, it started up great, and I went straight to the hardware store to replace the hose

It's not possible to guess with certainty, but my guess is a failing ignition coil pack. The oil and battery lights are just because the engine was off.

[–] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I have a 20yo car with a bad torque converter that I'm dragging my feet in replacing.

It shakes at stops and to get it to stop shaking I shift it to neutral. Your car is in the shop so you can't really make that test.

Fuel sensors can cause some funky things though. Give fuel when it shouldn't and not give when it should. It will cause misfires that way.

Driving with faulty parts will cause other systems to fail. It's usually better to replace things sooner rather than later.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It sounds like what happens in a manual if you bottom out your RPMs in gear. Maybe your car isn't shifting down or disconnecting the gear properly, especially if it happened while stopped.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Worst case would be if your transmission fluid leaked out, then your transmission would be shot.
Best case would be an issue with your spark plugs, then it should be good to go after replacing them.
Most likely case is a problem with wiring or electronics, which could be very easy or very hard to fix.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like it's shifting into a higher gear too quickly, getting stuck in a higher gear, or shifting at the wrong times, an issue with the transmission.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Traction control can cause the tires to refuse to move if you’re on a slippery surface like snow.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of these will immediately tell you with a free app

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225421804153

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

He said he already scanned it, so it won't tell him anything he doesn't already know. I actually do have one of those though, albiet with some other Chinese branding. It's not very durable as I've already had to replace it, but it's cheap so who cares? It won't pick up manufacture specific codes though, just obd2