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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 100 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Combine that with the 83% price increase in Australia!

YouTube can eat shit, they're screwing over even those of us willing to pay, Smarttube here I come!

[–] Thisismyusername169@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep! More people need to learn about Smarttube and Revanced!

Spread the word!

[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. They work way better than YouTube itself.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I've been a YouTube premium subscriber since before it existed. Last night I installed ReVanced.

It is not better than the default experience with premium. But it is pretty close. I'm using a patched version of the YouTube client, after all. The default client is not πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί$17/month better by a long shot.

I am still undecided on whether to wear the price increase. I have until March to decide.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As plenty of other people have already said, if YouTube Premium went up by a pittance every month (boiling frog price increases) I would probably keep subscribing. The fact that they A) clamped down on AdBlockers and B) increased Premium rates is a major disappointment.

Add to this that Patreon are introducing invasive User Agreements and it is getting more difficult to support Independent content creators.

Platforms like Curiosity Stream are looking more and more appealing to those of us who want interesting content and don’t mind parting with a reasonable amount of cash to support creators.

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wouldn't give Google $32.99/m for YouTube, no matter how slowly they increased the price, that's utterly ridiculous.

I've used Curiosity Stream and Nebula before, would happily go back.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

People are still subscribed to Netflix, even though the price keeps going up, even if they don’t watch it. People still have multiscreen subscriptions, even if only one person ever watches it. People still pay their monthly fee for a cable subscription.

I upgraded to a Family subscription so I could watch my YouTube without Ads and I could watch YouTube with my brother without Ads and it was only a few dollars more.

If Google increased the price gradually, a dollar at a time, I would probably not have noticed, like the mythical frog in the cookpot. The fact that they increased the price and clamped down on Ad Blockers at the same time bought media attention to the price rise.

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[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If it company had clear rules, guidelines, treated creators like humans, I'd be glad to pay for premium too

[–] what@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried to watch the Thursday night football recap yesterday and accidentally opened YouTube instead of smarttube. I was shocked. I watched a minute of ads to start and one minute in I had another minute of ads. YouTube was basically unwatchable.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 37 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't know how people can tolerate it.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend using ABD and removing the original app so you don't accidentally click it again

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] zerofatorial@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I love how none of the people who replied to this comment didn’t notice you were just pointing a typing error 🀣

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[–] Jailbrick3d@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

installing better adblockers

or just updating uBlock lol. not sure what YouTubes team was expecting here

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Some people use Google Chrome or other Chromium-based browsers that don't support proper ad-blockers because Google deprecated MV2. Firefox and its forks like LibreWolf are the only usable browsers nowadays, they are the only ones that support MV2 and proper ad-blockers like uBlock Origin.

[–] scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I updated ublock but it didn't stop the ads, so I can see others doing the same. I'm guessing it didn't actually pull the very latest version or the very latest block lists for whatever reason, but others might be less patient than me.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Make sure you have no other adblockers, disable enhanced tracking protection for youtube (shield icon at address bar) and make sure you have no other custom rules set for youtube.

Also you don't need to update all the filters. Just the quick fixes section -> click the clock icon and then update.

Also this all assumes you mean uBlock Origin, not just uBlock.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Use firefox and disable all other adblockers

[–] Jailbrick3d@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

didn't work for me at first too, but other YouTube specific ad blockers had side effects (videos opened in new tabs would play automatically instead of waiting for you to switch to that tab, etc)

here's what I did:

  • reset uBlock to default settings, then purge caches and update

  • clear all caches in your browser (in Firefox/Chrome you can just search for cache in the settings search bar and it'll come up)

  • fully close and reopen browser

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's meant for people who currently use ABP, uBlock, or one of the other countless bad ones as opposed to the far superior uBlock Origin, or Adnauseam.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or worse, they are just using third party clients.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are there any yt 3rd party that support chromecasting?

That is the only thing keeping me from switching away from the official app.

[–] dgsoa@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use YouTube revanced. Chromecast works, just have to turn it on in settings.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

For every tech company with an r&d team fighting this stuff, there's a plethora of programming wizards whose sole purpose in life is to defeat them.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's an assymetric cat-and-mouse game.

YouTube does it for revenue and has to spend money to enhance their anti-adblock system, while there is an army of volunteers online who will gladly defeat these enhancements for free with an impact on a massive scale.

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But YouTube has A LOT of money

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Internet has A LOT of volunteers

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm thankful for the volunteers but goodwill is not gonna last forever. Especially easy to burnout on goodwill when casual users goes apeshit on devs whenever things don't work. The system is stacked against volunteers.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've heard others say that many people are uninstalling ad blockers.

I guess its just how you interpret the data

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What's often left out is people are uninstalling terrible ad blockers and installing better ones. The terrible ones allow certain ads (from advertisers who pay to get through) or even inject their own ads.

Some disinformative articles are trying to use that to claim that because people are uninstalling [insert bad scammy adblocker name] that people are uninstalling adblockers altogether.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 10 points 1 year ago

Never would've guessed.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm assuming this will escalate to some insanely locked down DRM scheme. Guess I'll enjoy uBlock, ReVanced and yt-dlp while I can

[–] Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well Google has recently been forcing through its awful Web Environment Integrity proposal so...

[–] cole@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

more like delayed

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

They also could use Winevile like Netflix does

[–] InternetTubes@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had uBlock Origin and I didn't mind paying for YouTube Premium. When I will mind paying for YouTube Premium will be when all of my feed is full of reactionary populist channels, not to avoid paying part of the income that pays some of the people making a career out of streaming on the platform I've been avoiding even watching ads on.

It will be a losing battle for the people not trying to look for alternatives - in the end, Google has control of the backend, they can eventually decide to incorporate ads directly into the streams that are served to people protocol wise and they can decide to forego giving users any warning of when an ad will play and when they will try to force the video into forced reproduction.

That the streams are served in a way where the browser can discern when it should play the ads is more of a courtesy from a legacy architecture that came from a Google that wasn't intent on cracking down on people adblocking, and people may have to revert back to using more specific and resource intensive YouTube adblockers that try to guess when a commercial break is starting and ending directly from the video stream like old school VCRs did: https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-2869,00.html

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These days I imagine a database of ads can be built up. Every time a new ad appears, it could well be in the database within a day. Then within 5 or 10 frames, the ad could be detected and the database would know exactly how long to skip forward.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The worst-case endgame is, you can send the videos, but they'll never reach my eyeballs. Send those frames to /dev/null and store the video stream where I can watch it as often as I like.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And now I use brave which has a built in ad-blocker so I don't have them as my browser anymore either.

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[–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

yeah it'll probably find its way in under a different name in a more subtle way. use firefox

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