I can only hope plasma6 has serious improvements on Wayland compatibility with nvidia drivers because plasma5 is unusable.
Yes, I know it works on your machine. It doesn't work on mine :P
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This is Nvidia fault, no?
Ye but people don't want to accept that the company charging $5000 for a GPU is also too stubborn and lazy to pay any devs to write decent drivers
This is what I don't get. AMD has driver issues on windows because of a combination of their own incompetence and windows updates doing stupid windows things - people squarely lay the the blame on AMD. NVIDIA releases bad closed source drivers causing issues on linux - somehow the fault of linux and the open source communities.
These people should be hounding NVIDIA to fix their issues instead crying to DE developers to fix issues caused by NVIDIA.
Hopefully Fedora and others forcing users onto Wayland is going to help push Wayland devs to fixing the stuff that's breaking compatibility for everyone still stuck on X11.
Wayland is just a protocol, issues need to be fixed by devs of the apps/toolkits that have still haven't migrated over unfortunately.
Yeah, I share the feeling. Not sure if the problem lies on Wayland or Nvidia but hopefully if Wayland becomes the standard they'll address the elephant in the room!
I would wager nvidia. Wayland works way better with amd and intel GPUs.
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Completely agree, as an NVIDIA user (for now) I am screwed if I am required to use Wayland. I mean, I use Wayland for a long time and it works well with NVIDIA but there are many things that don’t quite work, like many emulators (Yuzu/RPCS3) that for some reason have a strange tearing, or some programs that simply won't open in xWayland.
Completely agree. I keep trying to open a new session on a clean new user regularly to check if it works and it is absolutely horrible. 3 days ago after updating the system and seeing some new latest kde versions coming in, tried again and noped the out of it in a few minutes. The fonts and scalling in so many places are very bad.
I keep reading about great improvements in the 6 version and am really hopeful for it to be usable.
Or the problem is just that no developers have normal regular laptops that are 14'' at 1080p and can't imagine that proper scaling at 125% and 150% needs to work out of the box.
Edit: I don't even have nvidia hardware, it's just regular intel stuff. Can't imagine the struggle of nvidia folks.
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I’m really looking forward to Plasma6. I know gnome has its fans but I am really just a reluctant user. Every day gnome works against me and I have to resort to workarounds.
Do I want to navigate, inspect, and manipulate my files quickly? I use dolphin.
Do I want to have a convenient panel to get a very quick glance of my currently running programs as well as a place to pin my most commonly used ones? That’s an extension.
Do I want sub-windows to always block their parent window, preventing me from interacting with the parent further? No solution.
Do I want desktop icons? Do I want excessive notifications from common tasks my computer is doing instead of from my own programs?
I have more complaints but I think I am making myself clear. Overall I do like gnome and it has good performance, but there are so many annoying aspects. KDE is itself not perfect. There’s enough reasons for me to continue using gnome over kde5. But that’s why I hold out hope for plasma 6.
I've been using Gnome for a long time, then Dash to Dock broke, switched to Plasma, not looking back ^__^
Anybody else really hate how a lot of gnome programs have settings that are hidden in the optional gnome-tweaks program instead of putting them in the control panel or program preferences? I swear gnome3 is the only DE that genuinely despises its users.
What are your reasons to use gnome over kde? Most of the things you mentioned are reasons I use gnome over kde so I’m curious to know other perspectives.
Good for Fedora for being a trendsetter regarding Wayland, though I'm sure others are right in suggesting that this is probably not being done with KDE's express approval lol.
I just want kde on Wayland not to have blury font with fractional scaling. It's just unusable. Once that's fixed, I'm all set to use it as my daily driver.
Fixed. Not backported since it requires a QT update. Fix is coming with Plasma 6. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446674
Nice
What does the baby emoji and 27d means? It only shows in voyager
Like the other guy said, it is indicator of new account age. I think there is a setting to turn it off if you dislike it.
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It probably means the account is quite new
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The future is here old man
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Plans were drafted in September to offer KDE Plasma 6 in Fedora 40.
All of these releases should take place at the end of February to inaugurate the Plasma 6.0 desktop.
Fedora 40 meanwhile should be out by the end of April and the Fedora KDE spin or those otherwise manually installing the KDE desktop will thus be able to enjoy the fresh Plasma 6 experience.
Well, the FESCo members have signed off on the Plasma 6.0 plan and the X11 support removal is still included.
FESCo members voted in this ticket to approve the Plasma 6.0 change proposal for Fedora 40.
Separately being pursued as well for Fedora 40 is removing the GNOME X11 session support.
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I can feel all the X11 fanboys crying lol
How hard do you have to search to find these x11 fanboys? Because whenever this topic comes up, the only detractors I see are users who complain because they can't use wayland for various reasons.
On the other hand those on the other extreme are easier to find, as they always celebrate x11 users (willingly or not) getting screwed; so toxic.
Perhaps it'll start working with Wayland in 6.1 then ;)
I really want to use wayland - and even though maybe I shouldn't I still do on my laptop - but man... on Plasma 5 that thing is borked. And I'm not even running on NVIDIA.
Whenever the system wakes up from sleep or an external display reconnects all open windows are gone and the system enters a weird state which forces me to reboot. How was "all windows are lost when the compositor crashes" not something fixed in the early days, is beyond me. That must make even developing for Wayland unnecessarily difficult/annoying.
Davinci Resolve does not run on Wayland!
Doesn't the Linux version of Resolve only read/import (or export? I can't remember) .mov or something that makes it more or less unusable? Has that changed?
Yeah. On Win and Mac, it imports anything. But on Linux, the paid Studio version will import x264/x265 with mp3 or PCM (wav) audio. Not AAC. People don't like that. Lol
But you'd be insane to edit with these interframe formats. And most commercial editors would auto-convert ingested x264/265 to an intraframe format like Apple ProRes or Avid DNxHR anyway. They're essentially containers for jpeg or png frames instead of compressing collections of frames. Much easier to scrub the timeline that way, though the files are huge.
On Linux, Resolve (both free and Studio) imports DNxHR with PCM audio and edits that like butter. ffmpeg easily converts prosumer camera x265/aac output to DNxHR. Or Shuttle encoder, if you want a GUI. And most pro cameras output ProRes, ProRes RAW, or DNxHR directly.
Also, Resolve on Linux will ingest all Blackmagic RAW file formats, if you have a Blackmagic camera. And the little BMPCC 4k is still a steal at $1200 or so. As long as you light your subject properly, that little camera shoots gorgeous photography.
Resolve is a pro tool. But a project takes time to set up. For little things, I'd go with Blender's VSE, which is full featured but has a terrible interface, or kdenlive, which is a Windows Movemaker like toy, but has a normal interface you'd expect from an NLE.
Thanks for the writeup, that's far more advanced than what I need to do in my work sometimes ^__^ But cool that it looks like there are options on Linux.
I do this for a living. Most people shooting family vids or youtube vlogs/video essays would find Kdenlive perfectly well suited to their needs. It does simple transforms, titling, adjustments, etc. And it looks like a normal NLE. When you hit a wall with it, the move to a commercial program will be easy.
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It'll have to now :)
Good luck convincing Blackmagic of that.
It does run on XWayland, or has that changed?
Has never worked properly on Wayland.
Has never worked properly (on Linux, even on Windows)
I use Resolve in production. It's rock solid.
Well, on Linux, lack of codec support makes it such a pain to work with it. Basically useless (unless you buy the Premium version).
On Windows, I always had weird rendering errors and crashes.
Other than that, it's really good. Love the fusion system.
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