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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"No, stop farming, infant mortality rates are supposed to be over 50%!"

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

They're going to be 100% every few years due to flooding destroying the crops!

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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The farming is okay. Just make sure to discourage anyone from feeling they have some sort of divine ownership over the land. Examples:

Little Johnny says "This is my land!" Knock that little bugger over and say "it's mine now."

If John says "God has given me this land to carry out his will!" turn that fucker into fertilizer so that he may be of use to society.

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if you spend months preparing a harvest, you'd be cool with someone turning up in the night and taking the crops after you've done all the hard work? After all the land wouldn't being to you.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (18 children)

They took more than was fair, so it wouldn't be fair.

Group ownership of a resource isn't in conflict with controlling the resource, or having laws and practices to determine how it's used.

Kinda like how we all own Yellowstone park, but no one is free to bottle and carry off all the water from old faithful.

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[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Small-scale, local farming is where it's at. Growing a bucket of potatoes on a balcony or helping out at a community garden are small but achievable steps to bring the food closer to us. In addition to sustainability, it promotes knowledge of how to produce our own food and reduces dependence on large-scale monoculture farming.

It's nice to walk a few paces and pick up an ingredient for dinner with the satisfaction that you nurtured it. But mainly, I just don't feel like going to the grocery store as much lol.

Check out !BalconyGardening@slrpnk.net :)

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most of the things you say are true, but small local farming isn't going to solve world hunger. The bigger a farm gets the more efficient it can operate. The progress we made as a species boils down to how much more efficient we can do stuff.

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[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do sure wish I had a balcony. I grew peppers and cherry tomatoes on my windowsill a few years in a row but the effort isn't worth it for an apartment...

[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel ya! We work with what we can and if the space you have isn't feasible, then that's okay if it simply doesn't work out.

That being said, here's a few options to consider but do what you want. :)

One option is to grow some herbs since those tend to get pricey and they therefore offer the best bang for your buck. Plus they take up little space. Starting from seeds is the most cost effective (only a couple dollars for 1000s of seeds). Sow them in an empty plastic egg carton, nursery pots, or other upcycled plastic container. Then, you can germinate and grow under grow lights. Don't bother with "grow light" marketed ones. Just the brightest, whitest generic LED bulb will do. If you run it all day, it'll only cost a couple cents per month. Then, you can harvest fresh herbs year-round! Lamps can be found for cheap and sometimes free on Facebook marketplace.

Another option is finding a community garden in your area.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do already keep herbs going as much as possible! (though I don't do it from seed, lazy bum)

The community garden idea is great, but the ones in the city center here are... expensive and quite "hipsterish".

[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It really is so much more convenient getting seedlings!

Also that's bizarre that your community garden is expensive - kinda defeats the purpose of it.

Anyways, enjoy the rest of your day Moghul!

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, you too!

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I grow tomatoes in my balcony. Constructive and fulfilling activity, love it.

But I can't imagine eating like 15 tomatoes per year lol

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Thank you for referring this community. Its the first time I see it and it was very inspirational. Cheers

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[–] Flughoernchen@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Farming basically invented work and employment. They should have realized something was not right about that back then.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It invented having a relatively reliable food surplus.

I wish I could make all these neoprimitives actually live the life for a week so they shut up forever about it.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Practically every single tribe on the planet decided that the odds for farming was better than rolling the dice every year.

[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I think it's more likely that it was better odds, and those that continued nomadic life died off at a much higher rate.

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[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Right, because hunting and gathering isn't work. People just got food into their mouths doing nothing - like wild animals.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Just don't assign corporate ownership of the fields and it's all good baby.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could've been hunting mega fauna with my homies but here I am with depression and anxiety

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it so funny that these plastic and credit score are a problem since like 50 years but somehow farming and civilization would be responsible for it. Like capitalism is the only outcome for civilization. It's scary how people are conditioned with this.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people believe technological advancement only has one single path. Innovation can only occur as a fixed formula where defined conditions must be met. For example, industrialization can only occur if coal and oil exists.

It's a very arrogant stance which assumes we know everything about the nature of the universe and what is, is all there could ever be.

[–] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No! You're looking at this the wrong way. Bisophenol A is the most affordable gender affirmation therapy in existance.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Only works in one direction though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Username doesn't check out.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They knew. Agriculture is what created the whole concept of "work".

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[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

that's stilt houses and rice terracing. those people are gonna invent rectangular sails and fire pistons

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Do you think it is possible for our current level of scientific knowledge to exist in a hunter gather society?

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