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[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Terrorist settler kills Palestinian harvesting olives on his land. Terrorist settler: how could Hamas do this?

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Where is the Palestinian right to self defence?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But then when the guy's son picks up an AK and takes revenge he is a terrorist

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you don't provide a political solution to a situation, people will resort to non-political solutions.

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

death by aerial bombardment would be my guess.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In total, since 2005, only 3% of investigation files opened following ideologically motivated offenses Israelis committed against Palestinians in the West Bank led to convictions.

Source: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/data-sheet-december-2022-law-enforcement-on-israeli-civilians-in-the-west-bank-settler-violence-2005-2022/

Let that sink in!

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Those 3% of genocidal terror israelis probably forgot to condemn Hamas

[–] Juujian@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I thought the scripture was quite clear with that whole "Thou shalt not kill" part...

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Ah, but that says not to kill people. It says nothing about killing rats! /s

Seriously, though, that's exactly why we're so capable of committing atrocities: we dehumanize each other until we consider it acceptable to kill. Portraying Jews as rats and subhuman is exactly how the Holocaust happened, and portraying Palestinians as subhuman is exactly how Israel is currently doing what they're doing.

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Jewish scripture always left room for murder.

This book, popular among the Israeli religious right, shows that their thinking (that segment) is much like Da'esh but for Jews: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torat_Hamelekh

Even Al Qaeda thought that killings at least needed a reason.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nah it's ok god is always on their side. (Any group that does terrorist shit)

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

We all know terrorist can't read.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why were the settlers there? Why were they carrying guns there?

They try to defend themselves with "they were throwing rocks at us", but that clearly indicates they were up to something untoward there in the first place.

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a bit of the same old story.

Israeli settlers: Dangerous terrorists attacking law enforcement, must be repressed without reservation.

Rest of the world: Kids throwing pebbles at an armored vehicle because they hate those who killed or screwed over many of their acquaintances, without even a scratch or hindering their work.

They’re not out there trying to win hearts and minds, that’s for sure.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

Just a reminder that Palestinians attack wasn't just out of the blue, Israel has been slowly killing and driving them out from their land for as long as they've been there.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The international community consider Israeli settlements to be illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

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[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I see pictures of small boys in the middle east (like 8 and 10 years old) gleefully carrying weapons, it makes me weep for the future of this world. There's no chance a kid who feels weapons are his only chance of retribution is going to grow up not to want to kill other people.

War is indeed a travesty, no matter who is fueling it. I hope this mindless conflict gets tamped down soon, and the world can try to move on from it.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I was thinking the same that war won't happen again in Europe that we as humanity have evolved sufficiently to realise that violence is never the answer, but reality has proved me wrong.

I really liked what Jordan's deputy prime Minister has said:

“Violence will only make things worse,“ he added. “The amount of hatred that will come out of this amount of misery will not lead to peace.”

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's happening in Europe as we speak.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was war in Europe in the 90s as well.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

There was almost some violence recently in Kosovo. Basically the EU told Serbia to knock it off. There's a real war going on.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I know, that's why I said it.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

War never leads to peace, only to continual retaliation. The old saying "to have peace you must prepare for war" speaks of an ill mentality that believes arming people with weapons will somehow cause peace to break out. The opposite is true. Nobody amasses weapons with the intent to simply use them as decorative household items. To have peace, you must prepare for peace. Which means you don't worship death, you don't nurture hatred, you don't hoard weapons, and you don't harbor resentments without seeking mental help for it.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The west needs to step in again, ctrl-z the postww2 treaties, and give the land back to palestinians. Israel has squandered its chance and this heaping pile of shit all stems from dickheads trying to make the Bible true.

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, none of the west's support is really because we think it's good to help Jewish people. At the end of WWII, virtually no middle eastern states were similar to our ideology, and most of the natural resources to power our war machines were located there. Additionally, it's at the boundary of three other geopolitical centers of commands.

Israel is America's ability to project power, that's why we give them so much money

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there is to be any hope of peace, such cases need to be prosecuted just as strictly as what Hamas did.

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably going to get a slap on the wrist

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

decorated in secret.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This brings the number of Palestinians reported killed by settlers to seven since Hamas’s bloody incursion into Israel three weeks ago.

Tayseer Mahmoud said his nephew, Bilal Saleh, was working in the grove in the village of Sawiya with his wife and their four children on Saturday when a group of settlers attacked them.

Settler leader Yossi Dagan said in a video posted on the social media p(platform Facebook Saturday that the shooter was accompanied by family members and fired in self-defense after they were “attacked with rocks by dozens of rioting Hamas supporters.”

The deadly shooting took place amid a spike in settler violence since Hamas militants infiltrated Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking over 230 others hostage.

In addition to the killings, Palestinians in the West Bank have reported attacks on people and property, as well as denial of access to their land.

Since the outbreak of the war alone, more than 100 Palestinians, including civilians, have been killed, most during military arrest raids and violent protests in the West Bank.


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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Can we all agree the word "settler" can fucking do one here? You don't "settle" already occupied land. You invade it.

[–] frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he had a right to self defense in the land he occupied

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They did that for the Last 70 years and Western powers, champions of humans rights didn't flinch. but they will sure that a dead dog in their backyard becomes concern of every other nation.

[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

There is no HAMAS in the West Bank, what new lie is the Israeli State of Apartheid peddling now?