Don’t get too comfy. Eu wants to make a similar law https://www.wired.com/story/csar-chat-scan-proposal-european-commission-ads/
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I just don't get what caused such a radical change. The EU has been at the top of caring about consumer privacy, with countries like germany even creating sweet laws like censoring most buildings from google's street view.
Now suddenly they want to jeopardize encryption and create backdoors? What gives?
Conservatives.
Liberals
Dwarves
and my bow!
and my axe!
"they" don't
There are a lot of different views on it between people and EU institutions and they're having difficulties finding a compromise. After all this time and reduction of scope and severity, the one they have now still can't proceed because of how far apart they all are in their opinions, assessments, and positions.
And now that they started questioning the driving person about their press-reported links to the big scanning software lobby orgs, with questionable results, even more people will become skeptical.
Nailed it.
There are different groups who want different things.
In general, most politicians are amoral bastards, just looking out for their own angle, which means placating different interest groups.
Not all politicians, and not all to the worst degree. Some a little captured by special interest, some a lot captured.
Some politicians (damn few) are somewhat decent, but even they can't push against the tide of their so-called "peers".
And then you have voters, many are easily swayed by "think about the children" and have little knowledge of how any of this works.
Kind of a perfect storm of crap.
And don't anyone think this is a UK problem. Politicians everywhere push this garbage as much as they can in their system.
I want to say "climate change" and "wealth inequality". Those are leading to instability and displacement of people. When those that have little or lost the little they had emigrate or flee to a relatively wealthy place with large inequality, the local population's richest have a new boogieman. That gets populists elected that make use of a lot of identity politics, with inflammatory and simplistic language. Non-populists see how well that works and feel like they require to employ the same tactics.
Calling for "security" and "protecting the children" are big trigger points for a large section of the society. They can thus frame themselves as "defenders of good" by doing things supposedly in favor of those things.
Bribes
What's the reasoning for censoring buildings from street view??
because nobody knows how the internet works, so it's scary. they are looking for houses to break into in streetview!!11 (satelite view is fine, though, because there you can only see the whole house and it's surroundings which is nothing one can plan a burglary with...)
Also there's a lot of architechts who fancy themselves to be Artists, and want nothing to do with having people living in and/or using and debasing their Art.
Nor do they want random people looking at it without paying homage to the exalted being that is the Artist.
Decrepit old people, who confuse a remote control with a cell phone, making laws
Have you read 1984? The UK was always using it as an instruction manual and trying to do their best Airstrip One impression.
Its kind of ironic that 1984 takes place in the same country
The Conservatives (big C) have always been like this. But lately they've gotten an undeserved confidence boost from the likes of Trump, and the GOP in general and their "reality is what you say it is" attitude to politics. The idea they could just outright lie about stuff hadn't really occurred to them prior to that point.
So that's for that Americans.
I think you are missing the point. A lot of these laws are bipartisan. What we are seeing is the slow increase in tyrany.
Don't believe modern news sources. They will only remote news that supports there political agenda and they are nothing more than propaganda machines at this point
Ingsoc is here. It's just more dull and pervasive and creepy than the flashy story version.
I know this isn't privacy, but they recently want to stop people from transitioning to electric cars and also want to stop funding for public transportation... so, this mental hemorrhage of a privacy law doesn't in the fucking slightest surprise me.
the tories - and that includes the red tories under starmer.
Maybe I missed the part about how this law protects free speech. Are people seriously making that argument?
Anyway I guess its nice to know that the US is somehow not as bad as the UK now
Easier to list what's not really.