The most important thing I've learned from discussions around this conflict is that about 95% of the chucklefucks involved are not equipped to discuss it and should shut the fuck up, myself included
this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2023
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Its really not that complicated: 2 million civilians can't be held accountable for a terrorist groups doings.
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Israel's bombing innocent young citizens is probably the best possible way to make Hamas grow stronger. What a stupid, horrible, immoral policy.
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They assume they have obliterated Hamas when all Palestinians are dead.
Who will they blame when the only palestinian blood left is flowing in the river Jordan
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If you go over to astroturfed reddit, there is no shortage of topvoted comments cheering the IDF for bombing children by saying "they're all hamas."
The same rhetoric Hamas probably used to justify killing Israeli civilians. But it's okay if Israel does it, because you know.
Reddit is scary after this whole thing started. You have people calling for outright genocide being upvoted to the sky. People saying the old disproven zionist claims (Palestinians are not native to Palestine, etc) are getting extreme support too.
I surely hope this is bot propaganda because, if not, we're about to witness one of the biggest crimes against humanity.
This just contributed for me to steer ever more towards Lemmy where the opinions are more...human.
Opinions are more human because they're mostly posted by actual humans. Reddit and that clowfiesta previously known as twitter are clogged by astroturf.
If lemmy ever gets really big, no doubt we'll see the same here unfortunately.
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Hamas hides in civilian places. In return, Israel bombs said civilian places, killing everyone but mostly uninvolved innocent folks, most of those are children. And yet when they try to leave, Hamas won't let them, and Israel bombs the exit anyway.
I feel like these two guys are secretly allied to commit genocide or something.
And yes, I'm waiting for the downvotes to come in. I don't even care anymore. Just press the button.
I wonder if Hamas would exist if Israel treated the Palestinians well, giving them aid, food, water and the promise of a brighter future… including sovereignty of their borders.
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Interesting to me, that Israel, the country that is most well known for cyber security and big tough guys who are good at martial arts, can't find random Hamas insurgents and take them out with precision strikes. No, it has to be artillery.
That's because the "big tough guys who are good at martial arts" are little more than hype and doesn't mean all that much in a military context. These overglorified "elites" (which usually turn out to be more Jeffrey Dahmer than John Rambo) have never won any wars for the countries that employ them.
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Ah yes, Hamas, the 7000 innocent men women and children murdered must have all been Hamas members. The entire strip is Hamas according to the IDF. That's why its necessary to deprive children of food, shelter, water, and medical attention, all while raining hell down on them 24 hours a day. Makes perfect sense. They just have to you guys don't you get it all the palestinians are hamas, and those journalists they murdered they're all hamas too!
The entire strip is Hamas according to the IDF
The IDF issued an order to evacuate the north part of Gaza. So anyone that didn't evacuate? Hamas. And the people who evacuated? Hamas using human shields. Sadly this isn't satire, it is the IDF's actual justification.
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I keep spraying this grease fire with my fire extinguisher, and flames keep coming! No I'm not going to stop, can't you see my house is burning down!
Such a dystopian headline it's comedic
All thanks to the Random Number Generator for allowing us to be born in a place where we have the privilege to call dystopia comedic.
That's genocide at this point, and Israel is a Nazi state.
There, I said it.
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The world is on fire and instead of working together to extinguish the flames, we're just using what resources haven't yet burnt to make more fire to kill each other with.
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Anyone know what Hamas says? Do they say they want peace between them and Israel?
No they think Israel needs to be obliterated
That's the biggest barrier to peace then. The whole article's a waste of time without that bit.
Yes, the biggest barrier to peace is one militant group that Bibi kept funding, and not the giant state of Israel that has now killed 7k Palestinians.
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