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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Interesting to me, that Israel, the country that is most well known for cyber security and big tough guys who are good at martial arts, can't find random Hamas insurgents and take them out with precision strikes. No, it has to be artillery.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That's because the "big tough guys who are good at martial arts" are little more than hype and doesn't mean all that much in a military context. These overglorified "elites" (which usually turn out to be more Jeffrey Dahmer than John Rambo) have never won any wars for the countries that employ them.

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Tbh, I didn't know Israel was known for cyber security. Guess I just think of a religious country with a big ass wall... but I'm not sure why I think of a wall. Could be World War Z

[–] Nintendo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

warmongering county wages war Pikachu face

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quite obviously, those tools don't win you wars. The world population is huge, so a martial artist doesn't count for much. Spying tech is useful, but it's also something people can work around, and regardless , the difficult challenge is what to do with that data.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

your right, shooting civilians on the other hand is a major win tho

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So much for cyber security when they can't even face a Moroccan legion who hacked one of their TV channels

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Israelis definitely seem pissed that the IDF didnt get word of this attack before it happened via cyber or spy channels.

[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Not praising the war on terror, but we very quickly identified targets and let it be known that we were invading for these specific people.

Israel's handling of this feels like they're just leaving it at war against bad guys/guys we don't like very much/people that look at us funny/Jim from down the street.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Krav Maga is not a real martial art

[–] doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

So much money wasted in this world on security theatre and culture wars.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read somewhere that presumably Hamas uses out of the date / primitive ways of communication to avoid being tracked online. I can't seem to see Hamas to outperform Israel at cyber security but I can imagine them running "off network " cables via their tunnels or even using old fashion living messengers .
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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They want to destroy buildings, infrastructure.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You really think they don't know where Hamas' leaders are? They know, but it's probably impossible to kill them, since they hide under hospitals in underground tunnels, and no type of ammunition can penetrate 30m deep underground without obliterating the building above it. No country in the world has faced these kinds of fighting conditions, and even the U.S had trouble fighting in the middle east because of probably these same reasons.

They're not fighting another army, with a base and well defined targets. They're fighting a terror organization operating from civilian homes.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br -3 points 1 year ago

That's because the gross of the Israeli military and intelligence is bussy harassing the Palestinian on the West Bank and giving support to the "settlers" land stealing efforts.