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what is the top right one? i recognize the xbox one logo but i have no idea about that one.
Seems like the PS3. 🎮
Was the PS3 that bad?
I remember it took Fooooreveeer for quality titles to come out. Plus, in my opinion The PS2 Was such a juggernaut that the PS3 had way too many expectations for what a PS2 successor should be.
Overall, wasn’t THAT bad all things considered. It got Blue Ray to beat out HD DVD which lets be honest, was Sony’s main reason for releasing the console.
Along with what's already been mentioned, it was very difficult to program for due to some interesting hardware differences and took developers a few years to really figure out which lead to some poor performance despite better hardware.
I do understand what you're saying, but it's kind of hard to call it "better hardware" in light of how difficult it was to actually develop for.
Someone had to develop a chip for the next video game console. That console didn't provide any value in itself, but was a platform to enable actual game studios to create immersive games for users. The chip design they chose hindered developers from doing that to the point that they were regularly outperformed by a far cheaper chipset.
I have a lot of respect for the nerdy details of the cell processor, and why it's an interesting processor architecture, but in the sum total context of what it was designed to do I would push back a little on calling it 'better'.
These are all valid points. But I don’t think the “better hardware” that helped the PS3 take the lead was really just about the cell processor. Nor do I think it played much of a role in the console’s price at launch. IIRC, at least in Australia, it was the cheapest BluRay player you could buy when it launched.
While both console’s were only really capable of 720p HD, many large open-world games had to use SD assets to fit everything on a DVD.
Microsoft clearly made that choice to keep the price lower at launch, and maybe Sony took the L on that one. But I don’t think they would have had the same resurgence later in it’s lifecycle otherwise.
Maybe "more powerful" would be the better term
Too young to remember but I do know the original PS3 was marketed more as a multimedia device, and started at $499 in 2006, which is over $750 today. That probably gave the Xbox 360 a boost. However the PS3 is likely viewed more favorably today since the slim model was much cheaper and marketed as a gaming console rather than multimedia, whereas Microsoft had the Red Ring of Death to deal with before they went down the Multimedia marketing path, which culminated in the Xbox One launch, also pictured.
At the time, the PS3 was the cheapest bluray player out there when it launched. Also, this is andetodical, but my university had a cluster of PS3s booted into Linux to be used for Machine Learning, as it was the most affordable higher end GPUs you could get at the time. I'm surprised people think the PS3 was bad, but I guess from a business perspective, selling hardware at a loss expecting to make it up in game sales probably didn't work out as well as execs hoped, because the PS3 had more capabilities than just playing games. I'd guess there's a sizeable number of PS3 consoles which were purchased without ever buying a game to go along with it.
Well, until Sony were their usual dickbag selves and destroyed OtherOS functionality with a software update.
This kinda highlights the multimedia thing I mentioned. They packed so many things into the original PS3 that the average consumer was either overwhelmed or simply couldn't afford it.
The PS3 wasn't bad, in fact it was the objectively better console, it was jusg so expensive to produce that the average consumer couldn't buy it or simply didn't need all of its capabilities.
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The ps3 was closer to 600 dollars then. Which is of course an even worse price. In addition, Xbox had a huge online lead. Xbox live was good during the original Xbox (nicer than the PS2's online service) it got better with the Xbox 360 and Sony was left trying to catch up in a time when online games really took off.
Lol no one cares about rrod. It sucked for the first year of 360 buyers, they all got new consoles and that was basically that.
Xbox 360 was fairly dominant compared to the PS3 everywhere but Japan, and it's a testament to the failure of Xbox leadership at the time how much the One launch flipped the tables.
Launching an always online, living room webcam / microphone in the wake of the Edward Snowden revelations was wildly bad timing, on top of a lot of poor decisions to focus too much on tv and entertainment instead of gaming and you ended up with a gamer revolt. Then you had the utterly absurd failed launch of their core franchise on the console, which just hammered home their lack of focus on gaming, and it was never going to recover.
FIVE HUNDRED AND NINTY NINE US DOLLARS
Back in 2006 too. OOF
I was in highschool when the PS3 and 360 were in their prime. It was almost like the console wars part 2, but it was a cold social war. A lot of people had one or the other, but rarely both. What console you had heavily decided who your friends were. Depending on who was in your halo party, or fragging out in COD, or co-oping through borderlands 2. That was your crew. You spent hours with them and it really changed how strong some bonds were more than people realized. The PS3 had a somewhat luxury feel to it, while the 360 was more cool, I particularly liked the blade UI. The PS3 was perfectly fine, but it was pricier and therefore less popular amongst middle/lower class families. I worked at the time and saved up for both. My core group of friends played PlayStation, so that's what I rocked for online games and as my primary. My 360 was jtagged with a rgh and I yanked out the disc drive and replaced it with a bigger hard drive. That was solely for pirated solo games and exclusives. Good times. The following generation I was strictly PS4 until switching to PC full time
Wow, people here were in high school or not born back then, huh? Crap.
No, the PS3 wasn't that bad. It dominated pretty quickly in EU and Japanese territories where people weren't as keen on Xbox Live, and once they dropped backwards compatibility and the price (still hate that, I've re-bought a fat PS3 later in life), they actually caught up and ended up narrowly outselling the 360.
It's one of those consoles that performed differently in different regions, like the OG Xbox and the N64, which did way worse than people think. It ended up being a pretty even split, so Americans in particular remember the launch as being disastrous and it has become a bit of a trope. It wasn't a good launch, but definitely not one of the top three worst console launches in history, even among the mainstream players.
The main reason people call it a disastrous launch is because it was Sony, right after the best selling console on the world, the PS2.
If it was any other company, the launch would be considered a huge success despite the controversy but for it to go toe to toe to the successor of OG Xbox, which in your own words didn't do that great is a pretty big fall.
Sure, and I did say it wasn't a good launch.
It was far from a disaster in context, though. The 360 had a whole year's head start (almost two in Europe), and it was already a massive hit, particularly in the US, by the time Sony hit the market.
People were (rightfully) disappointed by the spec and the launch lineup and (not so rightfully) bummed out by the price, but it was far from a disaster and it fully turned around by the end of the generation.
Good thing he wasn't with Nintendo during the Wii U phase, they might have gone under
Considering Nintendo basically has an uncle scrooge money vault, that would've been quite an achievement.
Nintendo was founded in the 1890s, they have infinite coffers
The Wii made so much money they could lose cash for a hundred years and still be okay.
"if you're good at something, never do it for free"
I like the deep v. You know that head and chest are smooth. You could slide right down to that pp without to touching a follicle I bet.
What are the other two besides Stadia and what is the history behind them?
The xbox pic is the Xbox One announcement where they basically said you wouldn't be able to buy used games. On top of that they focused mostly on other media instead of games. Then sony came out on stage, undercut their price and talked only about games.
Not entirely sure about the top right but someone else said it was ps3 which was a famously bad start for Sony because of the price point and focus on other media over games (less so than xbox one but still). Then xbox 360 undercut their price and focused on games.
PS3 had the last laugh though for backing Bluray over hddvd
Sony choose blueray because they own the patent. HDDVD was choosen to avoid the patent owned by Sony.
to be fair, a video game console that only focuses on video games isn’t very Disruptive
people didn't want disruptive when buying a video game console they wanted something that can play video games
what if it had blockchain though
gross
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Followed closely by Bernie Stolar, who ruined the Saturn, ruined the Dreamcast, and would have ruined the Wonderswan had Mattel released it here.
If he gets hired again they deserve everything they get.
Maybe he's one of those guys they hire to take the fall when they know its gonna go bad
Which one is the Xbox one?
The Xbox one is the Xbox One
Aka the xbone
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