No. Stop.
This is the definition of interrupting your enemy when they're making a mistake.
Let them kill windows 10, I have atleast 5 friends ready to switch to linux when Windows 10 hits EOL.
this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
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I have Linux on all my machines except one crappy old laptop that had Windows 10. When they EOL Win10, I'll have to buy another one like that for those rare occasions when you need to run something that just won't work in Linux.
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Based on my conversations with my clients, it seems like the 2025 date is going to result in the greatest Linuxing of all time.
as an avid multi-decades linux desktop user who has worked at a company with people in it before, i believe there is no way in fuck that this is true.
Yeah, I work in industrial automation and I don't see how it could be possible
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The year of the Linux desktop is upon us. The prophecy has been foretold by the sages of the code. A new dawn is on the horizon. A new era of freedom an power approaches as more and more disks are cleansed by the mighty forces set free by Stallmann and Torvalds. No more shall the users be enslaved by proprietary software and restrictive licenses.
The Year of the Linux Desktop is upon us, and nothing can stop it.
Everyone knows Microsoft OSs are tick-tock anyway. The failed 11 will be superseded by a well received 12, and the cycle will continue. Can’t kill 10 until 12 is fully accepted. Like 10 and 7 before it.
I find this funny as I remember the first 5 years of Windows 10 be like everyone hates it because it's not Windows 7
Well it was replacing the tile-silliness of Windows 8, any OS that booted would receive some goodwill in comparison
I wouldn't count on that, if the rumor mill of windows 12 being a subscription model ends up true, it will be recieved far worse than 11 did.
There's been articles saying that's disproven and it's so far out I don't get why people are even talking about it at all yet really.
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This was never a thing. Someone took a blurb said by someone on a call, and ran with it. No one fact checked, no one looked at context. At least not until after the articles were out.
The subscription stuff has always been on the enterprise side. Hell, it’s available right now and you don’t see it on the consumer side.
In fact, 11 doesn’t even require activation. You can just install it, never activate, and continue to use it perpetually. How would the next step in their movement away from requiring consumer purchase be to charge monthly for access? Makes no damn sense right out the gate.
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failed 11
By what metric (other than clickbaity tech publication headlines)?
Every Windows release, even including “the good ones”, my repair shop has been inundated with requests to go back or post-upgrade troubleshooting work.
We’ve had none of that since 11’s release. The only botched upgrades were due to underlying hardware conditions and everyone else has been neutral at worst.
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before 10, on 8.1 everyone was the same with 10, that it will be the next Vista, by the same logic that XP was OK, Vista was NOK, 7 was OK, 8 was shit, 8.1 was OK...
don't forget, for several years, 10 was unuseable and lots of people - including me was not willing to use it.
for a few years, 11 will be the devil but soonly enough the migration will happen - it has to, if someone needs Windows...
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Man, I'm just going to say it... I'm sick of all the Linux people saying it's the solution to all problems in computing. Can we not talk about anything else here on Lemmy? This article is about Windows.
I mean, this is platform which runs on Linux and embodies the same spirit which drives Linux forward - the collaborative power of opensource software. Is shouldn't come as a surprise that there's a heavy skew of Linux and opensource enthusiasts here. If you're sick of all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a propriety forum, perhaps one with a red alien logo.
This article is about Windows.
The article is about Window 10 becoming EOL, and given how many people are put off by Windows 11, suggesting Linux as an alternative is a reasonable comment, IMO. Feel free to argue otherwise if you feel so strong against it.
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As someone once told , windows 10 would be that last version of windows.(I like to keep it that way , at least for me😅).
That someone was Microsoft 😆.
Don't really care. Once this PC can't run Windows 10 anymore, it's getting Mint.
I've recently come to realize all of the games I actually like to play, run just fine on Linux. YMMV, of course.
My next computer will be Mint and open source programs.
I've recently had to pretty much stop playing games due to repetitive stress injuries so that isn't even relevant anymore. The only thing keeping me on Windows these days is 3ds Max.
No, Blender is not an alternative for what I do, don't even start.
I know you said don't even start, but I'm curious lol.
I've used blender a lot, I've never used 3DS Max though. What would you say are the biggest issues with Blender in your scenario?
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From a personal workflow perspective, modeling is slow as shit. Keep in mind that I have extensive experience with Max, Maya, C4D, Softimage (I go WAY back), Modo, Lightwave, and probably a dozen other packages. Nothing is as unintuitive as Blender. Except Lightwave, which is kind of an oddball in some ways but really fucking cool in others. Blender modes are wonky, selection is wonky, navigation, everything about it feels like it was developed by programmers with little to no input from artists. Because that's the case. I've used Blender since back when it was the only free-ish thing in town (late 90's/early 2000's when NaN still owned it) and it has always been clunky as shit. Max has the fastest workflow for me so I use it whenever I have the choice. C4D is quite nice for certain things too. Blender is just never good.
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The interface is still NOT GOOD kaboom. A lot of things are buried and not in places that make sense. This is true of a LOT of software in this realm though, so I don't harp on it too much but sometimes Blender's way of doing things is not compatible with industry expectation. Again, this is usually minor shit but all of these minor things add up to clunk and jank.
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And the biggest one is compatibility. I haven't done any freelance work for anyone that uses Blender. It's always Max. "But you can just export..." SLAP You can't use Max plugins in Blender, and the custom export tool for Random Company Engine is only available in Max because that's what their internal artists use. This is quite common.
So yeah, not an option in multiple ways. Blender isn't godawful anymore but it's still not where it needs to be.
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I remember Microsoft saying that Windows 10 would be the last version they would ever release and everything moving forward would just be iteration and improvement. Knew that was a lie immediately.
Microsoft never said that. Its a myth that refuses to die. A single developer on a conference mentioned something as a sidenote, the press misinterpreted it and the internet took it and ran with it.
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My system significantly exceeds all the performance requirements for Win11, but it doesn't have the Trusted Platform Module 2.0...and therefore cannot run Windows 11. It's disappointing that my system can run circles around a lot of newer devices but can't upgrade because it's running on an older motherboard. It's dumb that Microsoft made TPM 2.0 a deal-breaking requirement for Win11.
Apparently you can get around that with a registry hack that tells the installer the machine has it. Not that I’d want windows 11 anyway…
IIRC if you use Rufus to make your installer USB it has a preset for Win11 with no TPM. Again, not that you'd want to go out of your way to install it but doing it that way is pretty seamless.
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Their pals in the hardware industry say thanks for the ewaste.
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We had petitions for everything, Windows Phone, you name it a decade ago. That won’t do jack shit unless it somehow comes with some large sum of money (how much? who knows) for Microsoft or some bean counter decides “hmm, maybe the environment shouldn’t take another for the team” and gets the company to change course before they are canned.
In the meantime, let’s continue to plot our off-ramps.
Never mind the millions of PCs that don’t want to downgrade to this garbage.
I've been using Windows 11 for a while now and honestly I don't understand the hate. Who needs personalized functionality? Who needs to be able to move their bar from screen to screen? I do. I'm moving to Linux.
A nonprofit group has sent a petition to Microsoft, urging it to extend the end-of-support date for Windows 10 beyond 2025 to prevent “the junking” of millions of PCs.
"junking". Install linux on it you mugs!
Yup, putting this date on my calendar as the last time I'll own a Windows machine.
I use Ubuntu for pretty much everything, but I would prefer to use 10 in the unfortunate event that I have to boot into Windows.
Not supporting intel 7th gen and back seemed pretty strong handed, even now they're still decent processors.
And I know there are work-arounds but not for the average consumer
"No"
\ - MS
The Windows XP/Vista story repeated to the last letter, damn
Windows 11 will be relegated to a footnote in Wikipedia
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Because petitioning a company works, yeah
Hopefully by 2025 gaming in Linux will be greatly improved even more. Until then I'll keep using Windows 10 and I'll start saving for an AMD card
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Well, looks like it may be time to try and see what Linux is all about. Any good recommendations for a relatively Out of the Box experience?
I mostly just browse the web and play games (both single player and multiplayer, mostly AAA but also the occasional indie). On occasion, I also like to do some video editing in Davinci Resolve.
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