In order to update these spreadsheets and email some fuckers, society must allow for 200lbs of meat to be moved fifty miles per day. Because someone has to stare at me. The meat.
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society must allow for 200lbs of meat to be moved fifty miles per day
And in the US, said transportation will likely make even less sense (in terms of weight, cost, and health/comfort).
Yes, you put 200 lb of meat into a 2,000 metal box with climate control, a couch, and sound system, then burn 1-3 gallons of gasoline.
This is required for efficient spreadsheets.
2,000Lbs is a low estimate. 2,500Lbs assumes they drive a subcompact, 4,100Lbs is the current average weight (and 2004 was already at 4K so I'm not sure if this statistic counts SUVs/trucks or not). Even Kei cars are 1500-2500Lbs (ICE versions being lighter, though there are smaller and lighter cars including 2-person EVs that are under 1K*.
I would also add the time spent in a car (particularly in slow/jammed traffic) is also sedentary time (which an office job also likely is) and thus a health issue. So some people buy gym memberships which they must also drive to. If they even have the time/money/energy.
Also lots of bad things to be said about roads(/stroads) and parking lots etc. But the short of it is, they aren't places hospitable for living. Particularly on a hot day.
*=Though this lower-size vehicle may be legally classified as something else, such a a "covered motorcycle"/autocycle (or from what I'm seeing, some other close-enough category) which may be an issue or a boon with laws, and may even depend on local laws.
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A higher up at my company recently derisively said one of the major reasons people didn't want to return to office was because they saved money working from home... as if that's a ridiculous reason. Some of these executives are so out of touch with their inflated salaries.
Yet the same douchebag will cut costs in the company at every turn. And is probably cheap as fuck in personal budgeting. These people need to fuck right the hell off.
I think this is what people mean when they say "people don't work as hard from home" are talking about. Having a little extra spending money makes you not worry as much about appeasing your boss.
It really means the bosses can't preside over a culture of fear quite so well if people aren't cowering outside their offices seeking their attention. They like to be the centre of attention and work being done remotely makes them feel just as meaningless as the rank and file workers.
People are more productive at home. We know this. It works and has worked. These companies that refuse to acknowledge it will continue to destroy themselves.
Companies that adapt to remote work will have access to better workers who can afford to be choosey about jobs. And since remote workers concentrate better and work longer hours they're even more productive.
Companies which force workers to come into the office will languish and become less profitable and they won't even know why.
What a scumbag
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Expect a lot of the usual punching-down in response to this. "Carpool. Brown bag your lunch." and so on.
How to save money when working in-person:
- Instead of buying lunch, just steal it.
- Dont go drinking with your coworkers. Day drink so you're too drunk when you drive home.
- Make your own alcohol under your desk.
- Save money that you'll be forced to spend at the tiddy bar by oogling Nancy, the 60 yo HR gal with the nice taa taas.
- Bike to work.
Bike to work.
I love how this is framed as being just as silly as making alcohol under your desk. Our cities fucking suck.
Excellent suggestions! Biking also gives you many opportunities to spot some road kill pizza for those moral-boosting pizza parties!
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This doesn't include the opportunity costs of not being at home. Since you're not at home, you can't tidy up for a few minutes during a break. You can't prepare a meal for dinner that takes a long time. You can't run a quick errand in the middle of the day without eating up "sick" time. You need to provide childcare for kids after school.
If they want me in an office they need a good goddamn reason to do one of the most dangerous things I do all day - driving - and to pay me for all the things I'm missing out on. Not just for the commute, but a cleaning service, child care, and takeout for dinner.
Yeah when I’ve been allowed to work from home I’ve either done chores or talked to my wife during breaks. And I’ve been more comfortable doing the things that make me more effective in my work that bosses don’t like like listening to books during repetitive work
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my first reaction was that's a rediculous amount, but its actually not that far fetched. my commute cost is $17 per day (AUD) which is pretty much half that. all it takes is a cheap lunch and a coffee to meet that total (obviously something you can avoid most days but you won't everyday because "TeAm BoNdiNg" requires spending money to eat with people you don't like
I work in the US but at my company, team lunch is always paid for. Not only the food, but the time we eat is paid time (for hourly employees.) Mandatory "fun" should be on the clock and paid for by the company.
Definitely not the case for every company here, of course. But personally, I'd refuse to attend if the company weren't paying for it.
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Holy shit, 17/day? I fill my tank once every two weeks, so like $4/day in gas at most.
Parking, transit, gas, insurance, wear and tear on vehicle, fancy office clothes, etc. It costs more than just gas to get to work for most folks.
This is why I ride an ebike to work. Substitute cash for risk of death
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There’s about 246 working days (assuming you take up to 3 weeks a year off for sick/vacation, I know may be high for some people). At $31/day that’s $7,600. Use an average of 32% on taxes and you’d have to give a person at least an $11,200 raise to offset that savings…. And companies are still wondering why people are hesitant to come back?
I remember as a kid going over a friend's house and seeing the quarters lined up on the table. His parents were both nurses and had to pay to park at the hospital. I don't remember the amount at the time, just being in awe at how much they spent just to park where they worked.
They usually worked on different schedules too, so that's separate parking.
One of the big Boston hospitals tried to recruit me for their transplant team once. They wanted to pay me $15,000/year LESS for the privilege of commuting into Boston five days a week and paying for my own parking. Fuck that noise. I'll stay at my little community hospital, thanks. Prestige ain't gonna pay my mortgage.
The big university hospital that I work at charges $200 a month for employee parking, including for the people working near minimum wage.
Doctors park free in designated spots that are closer than patient parking.
Exactly.
3.25$ X 2 for the metro fare. Approx 5$ for a cup of coffee 25-30$ for lunch. A few bucks more on maybe a drink or a snack.
This adds up.
If you have to dress formally, you have to have nice clothes and a cleaning bill.
The people at the top like that, because they have the disposable income to dress better than the office drones.
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On the clock from the moment I leave the driveway and until my commute home. Pay mileage too. Ok to stipulate a reasonable limit on this, of course. Or, you know, let people work from home.
That's wildly country specific..
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