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All 10 of the largest U.S. meat and dairy companies have lobbied against environmental and climate policies, resisting climate regulations, including rules on greenhouse gases and emissions reporting. This is according to a study by New York University, which examined the political influence of the 10 largest meat and dairy companies in the United States.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

100% of the top 10 meat and dairy companies.

That should be in the title—otherwise it implies that every family dairy in the country has its own team of lobbyists.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Closer to the truth though. Most are part of organizations that include lobbyists that would oppose anything that negatively impacts the industry. I don't find that particularly nefarious of course.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s not that the title isn’t still mostly true—it’s that the impossible statement discredits the rest of the article.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Precisely this, if you've got a point to make, don't sensationalise the headline, it only makes it easy for people to discredit and ignore without even reading the article.

[–] Venutianxspring@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The title is misleading, however the top companies take up such a huge market share that it might as well be a true statement. I know there are companies trying to make some difference and I hate media sensationalism

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a sensationalist title, sigh

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Well I promise they aren't upset with having their industry lobbied for.

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[–] Arin@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago (7 children)

IDK why corporate lobbing is still legal, wtf outlaw it asap

[–] CrazyEddie041@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's legal because the people who benefit from corporate lobbying are the same people who determine what is legal.

[–] rdrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yup! And it's exactly why the system will never change on its own. The people in power will never voluntarily give up that power. Why does Congress get to vote on its own salary?!

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, what you are missing is that the people who make those laws are the same ones being lobbied, and lobbying means giving money to them.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (52 children)

Huh, well imagine that. The biggest sources of the problem is against doing anything about it.

What I find pretty wild is that our government even helps them do more of it by boosting terrible diet choices, including pushing it onto children.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It's all about profit. If some new discovery magically made dairy climate friendly but also increased profits by 12%, every producer would be on board tomorrow. They don't give a fuck about climate one way or the other, just profit. It's just that one position allows them to keep making their profits without having to make any changes. No points for guessing which position it is.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Holy misleading headline, Batman!

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem with the industries, but the 10 largest in one country is NOT "100% of all meat and dairy companies" or anywhere near that!

A sample size of the 10 largest in a country where it's literally impossible to get to the top 10 anything company without truly despicable practices is some supercharged selection bias!

[–] mrpants@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The 4 largest companies control 70% of the market. Markets tend to be one to three companies taking the lions share and then a long tail.

The top 10 will easily round up to 100%.

I'd also be hard pressed to find a meat producer that actually supported climate initiatives and wasn't some super small farmer.

https://www.reuters.com/business/how-four-big-companies-control-us-beef-industry-2021-06-17/

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[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wtf is with quality on lemmy world these days. How is a medium article written like an ethics 101 student using ai assistance news worthy. It's formula 1 sentence summary linked to an article source, with one sentence over generalized conclusion... Over and over and over.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Easy content to make. That simple.

[–] Mago@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Very dishonest click bait. Moderators should clean this stuff up in order to prevent redditification.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure how it is clickbait - it's just the headline is overstating the case by claiming 100%, when it should say 100% of the 10 largest companies - which are responsible for how much of the nation's market of meat and dairy? If it's like just about every other market, a few top players grab up most the market share and set the overall agenda.

[–] mob@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are they top 10 of dairy, meat, or both? What share of the market do they hold in each respective field, and combined fields? It's pretty arbitrary for claiming 100% of. Would you consider the same concept acceptable elsewhere with different subject like..

100% of Rappers and Democrats voted for Kanye in 2020. Top 10 selling rappers and Democrats on Spotify voted for Kanye.

Obviously I made that up... but I think you'd consider it dishonest clickbait.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I did look around earlier and saw that the top 4 companies controlled more than 50% of the market...add in the other six, and that is only going to increase.

https://www.iatp.org/companies-dominating-market-farm-display-case

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh no! Who could've known this? What's next? Oil companies lobbying against environmental and climate policies?

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[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100%

10 of the biggest

Always handy when a pop-sci article discredits itself without having to read it.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100% is 10 out of all the 10 companies they investigated.

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[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’m pretty sure this headline is impossible

Also, medium is a blog.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Came here to say this. I have a friend that's a meat and dairy company, and she (yup, 1 person for-profit farm) doesn't lobby for or against shit.

That gets us under 100% already.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

fucking meat factories are killing the animals and the goddamn planet

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Save the world! Go Vegan! [Or at least plant-based]

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[–] H0neyc0mb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know a lot of people are new here but this kind of shit should be moderated better... Link to the study, not someone's blog

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[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Ah water is indeed wet.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I mean, we all know the memes, but there has to be like a nuanced take take on why this is the case, right? Is it literally the case that they just don't give a goddamn about climate change and they're just going to get theirs while they can and to hell with everything else? Because it's going to be awful hard to keep your cows fed when climate change starts fucking up their feed crops, and we're pretty much there right now, as far as I understand it.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

The entire system relies on infinite growth in a finite world, trying to find logic in it is futile, never mind ethics..

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Is it literally the case that they just don't give a goddamn about climate change and they're just going to get theirs while they can and to hell with everything else?

Yup, that's my understanding. They probably aren't full on deniers, they know it's real, they just don't want to do the hard work and take the pay cuts that will progress us forward into the future.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism will kill us all unless we reject it whole-cloth.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that this can't possibly be true, because most meat and dairy companies do not have a lobbying arm, right? Right in the first sentence it says it's the top 10 largest, but let's go ahead and put some bullshit in the headline anyway right?

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vegan propaganda campaign is back at it again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Nevoic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Stating uncomfortable facts about the world that people would otherwise gladly ignore.

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