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Phishing Mails (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world
 

This will be a quick post. We have received a phishing mail to our info@lemmy.world mail address telling that they are "lemmy.world Security Team", telling that they will "disconnect" your account from our instance. This is ofc, not us. Do not fall for it! The attached image is how the mail looks like.

~Lemmy World Team.

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[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

Jesus. Phishing emails like this have become so commonplace I actually miss the old Viagra spam emails in l33tspeak.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you guys know it's not you guys?

Joke aside, i wonder why they wanna phish for user account in lemmy? Unlike the exploit like a few months ago that specifically target admin, this one seems like it target anyone, it so random.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To exploit password reuse.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Awesome because of the way it's written it's practically guaranteed that admins will know it's a scam.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got an almost believable phishing text yesterday from a 'collection agency' that wanted me to download a PDF and go to their website. It looked very official and I'm having some debt issues, but it didn't tell me who it was representing or what I owed or anything like that, so I could tell it was phishing. But a less-savvy person could have totally been fooled by it because it looked very real.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago

I got a spam message that was surprisingly well written until I realized wait a minute, if this is true, why do you need me to tell you who I am?

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

It's especially bad if you are half asleep and panic click on something, especially with session hijacking

[–] dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t it a waste of time trying these scams on lemmy.

I could be wrong here but I would argue the vast majority of users are somewhat tech proficient since it’s not reached mass adoption and the user base is well, just us nerds?

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tech folks still fall for phishing. It takes a momentary lapse, failure to caffeinate, it happens.

Lemmy is currently full of newly registered domains with weird suffixes, the kind that traditionally have been a phishing indicator. Lemmy.world is going to be harder to phish than some of the other ones where you have to read closely.

[–] dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess hubris can be a factor too.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not "ignoring your emails" and "never responding", I'm just security conscious

This is the story how my Steam account got hacked:

I was talking to a friend of mine at a party and I just bought a new game (forgot which one). He told me that he thought about buying the game as well and asked if I could let him try it out one time. I said "sure, just message me and you can log into my account and test it". 2 days later, he wrote me on steam asking for my login data and I thought nothing of it since we spoke about it in person, so I gave him the info. Turned out, his account got hacked and the intruder basically got a two for one special by just asking lol

Steam support rectified the situation and didn't even scold me for sharing my account which is clearly a violation of their ToS.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i click every link that shows up in my email, keeps life interesting

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Doing my part to keep our security team at work employed.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

how do you know it’s not from the secret second mod team?

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why would they target Lemmy users?

Your typical Lemming (for lack of a better term) is not technologically inept and would generally not fall for a phishing scam. They'd earn a lot more money from targeting Redditors.

software devs and other highly technical IT roles fail phishing tests at my company

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[This comment has been deleted by an automated system]

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Attention! u/spez demands that you suckle upon his prostate like a thirsty little pig!

"OMG guys, ^ THIS!"

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Probably overreach of an automated system

[–] callyral@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your typical Lemming (for lack of a better term)

idk i like "lemming"

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[–] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's weird that they target Lemmy, what would they get? Access to account that shitposts? Only important accounts are admin, even communities are small here

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is they did not. It doesn't appear to be targeting Lemmy, it's just a generic spam email.

Note the email was received at the info@lemmy.world address. The email most likely got the info@lemmy.world email address, took the domain from it, lemmy.world, and put this in their spam generator. The email doesn't even make sense, because it says they need to install an app for their mail but it's a custom domain.

If you imagine most of the emails on their spam list are @gmail.com or @outlook.com, etc, then the email looks like it is coming from the gmail.com security team or the outlook.com security team. The email no longer makes sense when you have a custom domain.

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[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 22 points 1 year ago

It's not targeted at Lemmy. This phishing mail simply assumes that lemmy.world is an email provider, and that info@lemmy.world is a registered email account there.

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[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] quinten@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[–] obinice@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are these sorts of things always written by somebody who can clearly barely speak English?

[–] bananabenana@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I read that this was to weed out savvy people. People who aren't skeptical of poorly written emails or messages are their target audience. Could be wrong though.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago

I think it's mostly an unintended benefit. These scams are usually run out of countries with English as a second language, so you get some grammatical errors in translation. It does increase the conversion rate, though, so they don't bother spending extra money getting a native English speaker to copy edit.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Yes, exactly this. You want people who can't see behind the simple facade. Because they are more likely to be easily fooled. You don't want to work someone who is very sceptical or just moderately sceptical. In that time you could work through a bunch of people that can't see behind this and pull out money from them.

Scammers want easy marks. Why wouldn't someone make it easier for themselves by naturally filtering out people that can't be easily fooled?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

I'm sure that's some of it, but also I think a lot of it is this is the kind of crap you do get if you run Chinese through Google translate and just copy paste the output.

It's almost fine but then it falls apart and doesn't really make sense.

[–] Koen967@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is unclear? All you have to do is resolve the Lemmy world app on Android and install the errors on your iPhone mail.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm not actually quite sure I understand what the issue they are pretending is.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Do you have plans to enable DMARC, DKIM, and SPF to make the emais more likely to be flagged as spam by email filters?

[–] cole@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've gotten an email like this before for lemdro.id. I think it's a generic phishing email since the community links look like email addresses (and actually often are)

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[–] MicrowaveOvens@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, quick question. I'm assuming these emails are automated, so how do they know your account's email? Is this part of a leak or are they sending email via "send notification to email" option in lemmy?

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some commonly used emails by most domain owners, like: info, webmaster, security, reports, sales, etc. Some people also set their email with a catch-all address, so if someone sends an email to "cat.in.tights", they'll get it too.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Such good English, too. How could you not trust that?

[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I wonder what they thought of when they wrote "Security Team." I just think of security guards.

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the heads up!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'd love to see what domain the "resolve issue now" link points to... Somehow I doubt it's lemmy.world. :)

Thanks for sharing!

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