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cloudfare bad (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] HadManySons@lemmy.bond 150 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.

Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.

[–] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems like saying road construction makes driving objectively worse or security guards make a stadium venue objectively worse.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

BACK IN MY DAY WE BROUGHT RIFLES TO GAME DAY TO TAUNT THE PLAYERS

[–] spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe their point is just privatisation or something.

For example a dns provider like cloudfare just could artificially make latency costs for servers that don't agree with something cloudfare does bigger, which would result in them being less likely to be displayed in a search result because a search engine would have IP adresses faster from other servers. This obviously depends on if a search engine makes dns requests or just provides hostnames for the end user.

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[–] txmyx@feddit.de 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago (12 children)

O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

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[–] krey@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP should actually be mad at the criminals making cloudflare necessary for some by attacking sites. Those are the ones making the internet worse.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I can be mad at both.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.

[–] DarkenLM@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago

So it wasn't just me. Good to know.

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[–] dill@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen

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[–] Krafting@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

[–] lukas3651@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tailscale is the way! Have been running it since January, flawlessly.

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[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago

I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.

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