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Former House Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday that Republicans will lose the presidential election if Donald Trump is the nominee and that he expects hard-right followers of Trump to force a government shutdown within days.

Ryan, who left office in 2019 and had a sometimes contentious relationship with Trump, said he hoped that another Republican nominee would gain enough momentum early next year to overtake Trump after the first primaries. Ryan represented southeastern Wisconsin in Congress for 20 years, the last four as speaker.

“The party that puts the first fresh face forward wins this election,” Ryan said at an event on the University of Wisconsin campus organized by the Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 112 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I think leaders should be honest, ethical, and moral"

Paul Ryan is none of those things.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favourite Paul Ryan moment was when he said Rage Against The Machine was one of his favourite bands, and then Tom Morello wrote a lengthy article in response about how much of a jackass he is.

Like imagine naming your favourite band and then they go super far out of their way to tell you specifically to go fuck yourself lol.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

This happened in the UK with our right wingers too. David Cameron said that his favourite band was The Smiths. Johnny Marr publicly stated that David Cameron did not like The Smiths, because he forbade it. He would however allow it, if David Cameron left office immediately.

Now I think about it, didn't the Village People have beef with Trump over his use of YMCA at campaign rallies as well?

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Paul Ryan was literally the speaker candidate that was chosen to appease the Freedumb Caucus (McCarthy was the original choice lol). Ryan is probably the biggest reason someone like Trump came into power.

[–] toastus@feddit.de 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How I miss the days when I disliked Republicans just for being slimey shitweasles and not literal fascists.

I mean, regardless of their plans, the Bush era wasted an absurd amount of money and goodwill to get a million Iraqis killed and destabilize the Middle East for generations.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Slimey shitweasle is a precursor to literal fascist.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We finally found the slippery slope they're obsessed with!

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

And that slope is so slippery because it is covered in santorum.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Paul "Do you even lift bro" Ryan?
Paul Ryan lifting weights

Of course the only republicans to criticize trump are those no loner in office, or are already on their way out.

Edit: Don't forget that was instrumental in starting the Tea Party, which is what created the modern republican party as we are witnessing it.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Paul “I listen to rage against the machine and think nothing” Ryan

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Paul Ryan were still in Congress he’d be just as complicit in this shit show as the rest of the Republicans.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think that's why he left; he saw this coming.

Not that I think highly of him, but that's how it seemed.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't give a fuck what Paul Ryan thinks about anything

[–] Neato@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I completely forgot he existed.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans' only semi-popular candidate is Trump. And seeing as he has dozens of indictments and stands a better than average chance of being incarcerated (or at least house arrest) by the time he'd be sworn in is pretty pathetic. I don't see a way Republicans win in 2026 but I've been surprised at the criminality and stupidity of this country too many times before.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: nothing prevents Trump from serving as president while being in prison. Absolutely nothing in the Constitution and nothing in federal law.

Imagine with me a sitcom where Trump is about to receive a foreign prime minister but has to cancel last minute because he spit his lemon cookie at a guard and got 5 days in the hole.

Please let this be fiction.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

My hope is that the GOP loses this election as the country's changing demographics catches up to it. Then they fade away to irrelevance, like the GOP in California. (They haven't won a state-wide office in years.)

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.
-Lindsey Graham

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Former Speaker Paul Ryan says WHO THE FUCK CARES- THIS GUY IS A SHITSTAIN

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

That's what they said in 2016, 2018, 2020, and 2022, and they were only right 3 of those 4 times.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

... he hoped that another Republican nominee would gain enough momentum early next year to overtake Trump after the first primaries.

In the first debate, all the people on the stage said they would support Trump if he got the nomination and was a convicted felon, with the exception of Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christie.

Hutchinson is not going to make it to the next debate.

Sorry Paul Ryan, it looks like your misplaced hope is for one fascist to be replaced with another. Go fuck yourself.

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck Paul Ryan, fuck Ron Johnson, fuck Robin Vos... but a broken clock is right twice a day.

If anyone wants to shit on his (parent's?) lawn, go visit Janesville lol.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

And america will lose if he wins.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on the media, the Democrats lose with Biden and the Republicans lose with Trump. Who actually would win?

[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

In my little bubble people are mostly satisfied with Biden. Curious to see just how true that is nationwide.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 1 year ago

Don’t threaten us with a good time.

Though in all seriousness, I wouldn’t rule out Trump winning. The Saudis want him in power, and are already starting to jack up oil prices, in the hope of causing significant numbers of voters to vote against the government. There is a mood of dissatisfaction with the economy, which is sticking to Biden. The NYT and Washington Post seem to be doing their bit to tar him as a loser (presumably a volatile autocrat in the Whitehouse sells more papers). The Republicans still have structural advantages such as gerrymandering, voter suppression and partisan judges. And not least importantly, all those stories about how the Democrats are winning/abortion will sink the Republicans/the inevitable Trump candidacy will sink like a stone once it’s no longer a Republican primary will undoubtedly persuade a lot of Democrat voters that the race is won and they can take it easy. It’s going to be a hell of a fight.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

This dude got told run away after Trump popped on the scene and he'll get sent back once Trump dies. He's someone's "great white hope" puppet.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's like, psychic and shit.

[–] khan_shot_1st@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know about the psychic bit...

One can hope.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Former House Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday that Republicans will lose the presidential election if Donald Trump is the nominee and that he expects hard-right followers of Trump to force a government shutdown within days.

“The party that puts the first fresh face forward wins this election,” Ryan said at an event on the University of Wisconsin campus organized by the Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs.

“I think leaders should endeavor to be honest, ethical, moral people who try to set standards for themselves and lead by example across the country,” Ryan said.

Ryan said in the small number of swing states, including Wisconsin, the election will come down to winning over suburban voters.

But with just five days to go before Saturday’s government shutdown deadline, the Senate is trying to stave off a federal closure as hard-right lawmakers seize control of the House.

Senators unveiled a bipartisan stopgap measure to keep offices funded temporarily, through Nov. 17, to buy time for Congress to finish its work.


The original article contains 401 words, the summary contains 174 words. Saved 57%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay…so let me play devils advocate here

Why do the polls show trump in the lead? Are they purposely flawed to get people out to vote?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

As far as I know, one poll showed Trump ahead and it was a phone poll, so how accurate could it possibly have been? Who answers unknown numbers on their phone in this country aside from Boomers and fools?