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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 255 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a slow top-down, follow the chain of command, follow policy, follow the chain of custody, vote, protest, violently seize the means of production,

until we have universal healthcare.

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 160 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I like that the thumbnail is John Fetterman. Like who else could this be almost explicitly aimed at.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Exactly. Now watch, some of the GOP that complained about Fetterman's clothing choice will take it to the extreme and wear a chicken costume or something.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I'm holding out for aborted fetus costume. I can feel it in my bones.

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[–] ViewSonik@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well there was a literal orange clown in the oval office for a few days so republicans were already dressing up

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

For sure someone is going to try to leverage this. What back-bencher will jump at it, and make a splash?

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope he goes wearing overalls with one shoulder unbuckled and nothing else.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Poor guy got so depressed having to wear a suit they changed the dress code. I can empathize. My boss told me to put a dress shirt on if I'm on camera with customers and I hate it.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 154 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok so can we have universal healthcare now? Cause that should be the biggest issue every single day for them.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You're not going to get any Republicans voting for that.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Republicans: Democrats want to shut down the government??

No. Wait. Stop.

See, your problem is in thinking Republicans want a functioning government.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on, we gotta approve socks and sandals

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then, tax breaks for the rich and mega corporations.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 1 year ago

And then we have to take a break, that was a lot of work.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The programming socks to legislating socks pipeline

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The average age of Congress is 182 years old

Um.. maybe not lol

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Age shaming in the femboy community smh

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.

One rule for thee but not for me.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dress codes are designed to keep the "wrong people" out. Show up to a DC event and they'll know you don't belong by the cut of your suit.

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[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone will live long enough to regret this. Matt Gates will show up in a thong and a gas mask to protest something and the votes won't be there to bring things back the old rules.

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[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Know what would be funny? All the Dems show up in tan suits.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I’m ok with this- who the fuck cares if you have a tie.

I was all shit and tie when I started my job, and especially after Covid, things have relaxed to just about anything. Sure, I still put on a nice work polo for a client meeting or something, but fuck the suit and tie. If anything, fancy dress code made me way less productive because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.

As for our lawmakers, one less thing to distract them from actually reading bills and having productive discussion is a win.

[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m a software engineer and cloud architect

Knew it 🤣🤣

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a friend who used to work for some big time government IT contractor, he was a tech guy, software engineer or something along those lines. One time they wanted him to go to some meeting, and not that he normally dresses like a slob or anything, but for the meeting he put on like a polo and khakis figuring he should look somewhat professional. They told him to go put a hoodie on because they thought whoever they were meeting with wouldn't take him seriously as a programmer if he looked too presentable.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love to see the moral scolds on the right pipe up about how scandalous this all is, right after Lauren "handy" Qbert was caught on video....

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fetterman has already addressed this on Twitter/X.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

should've passed it for every job, everywhere, using the same logic

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed. What is considered "business attire" is exceedingly stupid and impractical.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then how could we tell the poors from the real humans?

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[–] girltwink@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This is part of a slow trend towards powerful people dressing casually to differentiate themselves from the less powerful people who work for them. Historically, trends like this have been set by the elite and are then emulated by people trying to convince others that they are elite. This is the beginning of the end of formal wear in the United States. Soon a suit will mean "i work at a hotel".

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hence this part, perhaps?

Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.

Rules for thee, not for me.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I hope this goes to the House too so I can finally see Boebert in her wal mart pajama pants

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

They should wear togas and sashes. Maybe have some fist fights and assasinations once in a while.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fetterman wearing a hoodie is BAD AS FUCK.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You heard the old man in charge, boys. Dicks out on Monday.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck yeah. Hoodie and jeans. He's the most "average man" there is.

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[–] Mandolingual@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh, I'm fine with it being loosened up, but is it really "whatever they want"? If it is then I'd think annoying attention-grabbing messaging would become an issue. (Or, not an issue, in the grand scheme of things, but another in a long list of distractions)

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw a dude the other day looked exactly like Senator Fetterman. He was a tow truck driver.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That is the function and fucking power of democracy; it is not the flaw.

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[–] JoJoGAH@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This will be helpful in so many ways, humility and work ethic will be encouraged by not inflating ego with suits. If a suit is your style, great and fine, have at! If you are wearing it to feel important and you are working with others who are dressed differently, you are reminded that the job is at hand and not ego.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It looks like it’s geared towards men and their suits but does anyone know if there were changes for women? I know Canadian parliament women had to protest to not get in trouble for just showing their shoulders, not sure if there’s similar rules in American congress.

[–] chili1553@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I'll have you know a shorts and hoodie is appropriate wear pretty much anywhere in PA for any event, so Fetterman should be allowed to rock his Pennsylvania tuxedo

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