From a lifetime android user ios didn't have that feature? What the hell, or would you just install a third party maps app to have it.
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I’ve always used google maps on my iPhone and it has offline maps. I use it pretty regularly on trips to be damn sure I can get where I’m going regardless of cell signal.
I never used Apple Maps because it was HORRIBLE when it first came out. I used it a few times more recently and it’s actually pretty decent. With offline maps I might give it another real try.
I find that Apple Maps gives very solid arrival estimates. When I used Google Maps it always seemed to over or undershoot the length of time it would take me to get where I was going in the moment. I also find that Apple’s voice guidance seems to be better and clearer about what it wants you to do. I switched over to it exclusively about two years ago.
Offline maps are a little above a “nice to have” feature for me. However, I think it makes it worth giving it another solid try for a few weeks. I’ll check it out as soon as iOS 17 hits.
Apple maps will actually suggest storing offline maps if an area you'll be going through is known to have bad cell service. Not sure how they're determining where there's bad service.
https://9to5mac.com/2023/08/24/ios-17-apple-maps-offline-maps-route-download/
Probably from carrier coverage maps
That or tracking anonymous data from people's phones. Hopefully if that's it they go based on if the maps actually load instead of just bars because there's plenty of places with good signal but unusable data due to congestion.
Yep I’m Apple Maps for navigating but google maps for reviews on places. Apple Maps still uses freaking yelp. It’s ridiculous.
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Damn, reminds me of when they announced copy and paste was coming to their phones as if it was some incredible breakthrough, and yet everyone else had it on their phones for a long time already.
Now they're adding basic map features from a decade ago and have the gaul to suggest to their customers that it's new and innovative?
I wonder what other old, basic phone features Apple customers just don't have. I feel sorry for them, people playing that much for a premium device deserve better.
suggest to their customers that it’s new and innovative
I'm a big Apple critic too but to be fair that message reads pretty neutral. Where do you see the claim it's new and innovative?
I suppose the fact that they feel the need to announce it rather than to just do it.
Anyway this is fairly standard operations for Apple. They did the same when they added widgets to iOS. Gee wow, guys thanks for adding a feature that has been in Android for about 20 years.
I mean their events are literally held to give news about updates. Revolutionary or not.
Why would they not mention stuff people could make use of, just because it’s not some amazing new things.
Events are rather decent to be honest, no that I look at them. But people do, so it’s very easy to get an overview over upcoming features.
If their events are held to give us news and updates why didn't they tell us that the new AirPods pro2 have a new chip for extremely low latency use with their VR headset?
Because it's not to give us news and updates, it's to sell you on the latest flashy slab.
I mean it’s obviously not news, news. It’s marketing. Most people just don’t care about latency on a product, especially when it’s for use with another - not even released product. What do you expect?
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Once again, I'm still trying to figure out how apple users can defend this. Yes, Google maps had this feature, but everytime I talk to apple users I'm always told they got their phone because "it just works!". But then I learn that features I consider basic at best are completely missing. If my iphone should "just work" I expect the features I want to exist without another app installation. Things on iphone only seem to work if you don't know anything better.
The ability to put home screen icons where I want them.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn't require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture 'because'.
Stupid thing is both of these could be added in a minor software update, but I've been holding by breath for a decade now..
As I have to use both platforms for development those are the things that I notice most.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
People keep saying this and yet this has literally never happened to me in 5 years of using iOS. Maybe don’t use apps developed by people that don’t know what they’re doing? Developers can disable the back button on android too if they hate their users.
They can't.. in android the OS defines the navigation. Back works everywhere. You can do wierd stuff to make back do silly things and go to the wrong screen, but that takes a bit of effort.
In iOS, so far I've seen.. swipe left, swipe right, swipe from the bottom, click 'back on a button on the left', tap on the screen to bring up a button then click that..
Some actions are impossible.. you click on a link in mail to see for example a tracking number.. for me a daily occurrence. There is no back gesture available, you have to go back to the home screen and restart the mail app, which is utterly stupid especially when you have to do it multiple times.
On android it's simple. Want to go back? Wiggle your right thumb. Done.
The OS should define navigation. Always.
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don't know anything better.
Mystery resolved.
Basically iPhone users don't know what they don't have because they never bothered to look outside of their little walled garden. There are some good features of iPhones (like 3) but mostly they're just been sold as a lifestyle product.
or... some people just prefer iPhone? Disliking android os doesn't make me tech illiterate
e: for relevance, I don't like google analytics and in its current state I consider apple a lesser of two evils (marked up hardware vs advertising company). I don't want to spend time configuring an android phone to my tolerance levels when I can just use the same tech I've been using for years with hardly any issue.
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Downloading Google maps is an option. I have never used Apple maps.
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Competition is good, so I like that iOS provides an alternative to Android.
I still consider the lack of sideloading without jailbreaks a dealbreaker for iOS though.
Most apple users never even wanted or used an Android phone, so our collection of basic features are different than theirs (ours is superior, of course)
Out of curiosity, how often do you talk about smartphone choice? I’ve never once heard “it just works” in real life, nor have I really talked about what phone I use or why. It’s not a subject I’d purposefully avoid either.
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The fact that this is the only new "innovation" worth writing an article about is sad. Technological progress has declined so much over the last decade as Big Tech has consolidated the market. Doesn't help the every minor leap gets turned into a subscription these days either.
Is there an article? I only see a screenshot.
It’s news from over three months ago. This is just a screenshot highlighting a single new feature from the iOS 17 page.
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You could give an iOS user a current Android phone that has an iOS-like launch screen and an Apple logo on the back and tell them it's the new iPhone with a whole bunch of new features.
I mean, why don't we just do this anyway? iPhone is obsolete at this point.
This isn’t an iOS thing, it’s an Apple Maps thing. You could do this with Google maps on iOS to just fine. Google maps was the only map app that had downloadable maps up to this point that I know of, not even Waze - Google’s neglected step child - has it.
All map apps have had this for ages. Here, Magic, the OSM ones, etc. Apple is the outlier here.
First USB-C, now this?! They're really spoiling us
But it’s only at usb 2.0 speeds
Because the controller in the base model supports only 2.0, next year the base model will get the pro chip from this year with 3.0 support, nothing really new
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And still the biggest bullshit on iPhones is still the lack of clip board and how the copied item will vanish after 20 mins… my ADHD brain won’t remember what I needed that copied thing for because as soon as I see my Home Screen I will end up on a different app and spend an hour on there
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A tad bit late.
I’m kind of glad the main dev team is seconded to visionOS this year. iOS 17 doesn’t have anything too crazy but the QoL improvements and long-standing feature gaps like this one being closed are really where the attention needs to be.
Apple has really polished Maps, Mail, Safari and Home over the iOS 17 beta period and I hope that continues during the minor updates.
For offline usage, I prefer using Here WeGo (I like download the full map instead).
For the other 90% usage, Waze and Apple Maps are good enough.
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