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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, it will go terribly for Russia, the country which notoriously lost every time they fought in winter.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Was gonna say ah yes the Russian army, famously I'll equipped for winter defenses.

Ukraine already complaining that Russia is cheating by using at Mines on their tanks, I'm sure covering them in snow will make it easier.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

smuglord those dirty Russianist hordes will surely be weakened by the onset of winter, which history has shown is the perfect time to launch an offensive into Russia. I am very intelligent.

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[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago

Ah ye,s the Russians, famously unprepared for... checks notes ...Winter! Yes, this makes sense!

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

WHY IS YOUR PLAN TO FREEZE OUT THE FUCKING RUISSIANS, ON THE OFFENSE.

THAT HAS NEVER WORKED. THAT IS LITERALLY THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A BAD IDEA

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the cycle repeats again, but to a much shorter beat this time

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ah yes. The Russians. Notorious for losing to invading forces due to being ill prepared for harsh Russian winters.

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wtf is a "Stalingrad"? Sounds very authoritarian.

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 year ago

If there is one propaganda narrative I did not expect to see, it's this one. This is why I don't gamble. Can you imagine the odds?

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Russians are getting... whatever they get,

Buddy, Russia is blowing up previously never-exploded Britbong tanks and basically disassembling NATO artillery before it even launches, often simply by having weapons that work.

The Transatlantic Empire's most effective weapons have proven, like always, to be terrorism and targeted political assassinations. The U.S. is as paper a fucking tiger now as it was when chairman Mao said it.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget propaganda powerful enough to make people oblivious to their material conditions

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago

Too many folk here in Amerika "know" more about what's happening in Ukraine than what's happening in their own damn neighborhoods.

An addict shoots up. A mugger creates a victim. A cop shoots a black child. A homeless man freezes to death. A drunk beats his wife. Everyone starves and struggles against the tremendous weight of debt. Buildings and streets continue to erode ever further, unmolested by the tyranny of public investment. All within the shadow of billowing Ukrainian and Amerikan flags planted on some "apolitical" petit-bourgeois fucker's perfectly mowed lawn. 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russians discovering the concept of the Russian winter for the first time in their lives

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sure Russia has military clothing for cold weather somewhere. This has to have been an issue that Russia anticipated at some point coming up

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At one point when typing stuff like above out one has to ask themselves if Russia, a country that has experience with extremely cold temperatures since forever, does not have winter proof materials for their army.

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[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 74 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes because the Russians are so utterly incompetent that they have literally no strategy in winter time aside from standing around like chickens with their fucking heads cut off. How do people buy this shit?

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 1 year ago

I am pretty sure it's 95% deeply rooted racism and the rest is the result of the ongoing propaganda campaign.

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[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russians are getting... whatever they get, so they'll probably freeze

YES, Russia, fucking RUSSIA, the fucking BIG BEAR, THE FUCKING COUNTRY WHERE THE MOST COLD CITY IS, DOESN'T HAVE EQUIPMENT FOR THE WINTER

LIKE, they even remember that the war already passed a winter?

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was under the impression that libs thought history started in February 2022, but it turns out they seem to think that it started sometime in the last 3-4 months.

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is a tropical country with no experience in winter apparently 😅

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)

How do you explain the jungle in MGS3 think-about-it

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[–] toilet_wolf@lemmygrad.ml 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

alright am I crazy or is this not the exact same thing these people were saying last year as winter was approaching?

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That’s what’s also confusing me. Like, we’ve already gone through winter of this war so what makes this year different? The Russians survived then and will do the same now so I don’t know what they’re blabbing about.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

i know the "invade russia in the winter" meme is inaccurate and overdone, but imagine doing it anyway

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[–] DeHuq2@lemmygrad.ml 72 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wonder what war looks like in their heads. Is it a fps shooter? A HOI campaign perhaps? Do they seriously believe soldiers just charge at each other?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It may be related to what space exploration looks like in their heads.

A vehicle lands on a desolate planet, serenaded by LE EPIC HANS ZIMMER music, and amid the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM, humans transcend and become godlike and win the science victory. Roll credits. so-true

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

It looks like the Americans from any Hollywood war movie fighting the Soviets from Enemy at the Gates.

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[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. Fighting Russia in winter. The thing that westerners and nazis are definitely very good at.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 69 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why wouldn’t the Russians be prepared? Look at where they live, do they not think Russian soldiers are prepared for fucking winter?

[–] bandarawan@lemmygrad.ml 69 points 1 year ago

Nope. Every winter all Russians die. Every spring saruman makes new Russians out of dirt and coal.

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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignoring the stupid and outright murderously insane shit in that post...

Are they not aware that Ukrainian men were also conscripted? Ukraine quite literally locked down the borders and wouldn't let men out and said "go protect the homeland!"

I understand the conscripts thing is meant to he demoralizing or whatever like "you don't even want this war! Give up!" but that fails when your own country is also conscripting and begging for people from around the world to come help fight Russia. This wasn't exactly kept a secret either, so it's just weird seeing it used in this way.

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[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Setting aside the question of winter gear (as comrades have already highlighted it), and even setting aside the murderous masturbatory fantasy of war-as-videogame (what they describe is essentially CoD or Ghost Recon kind of game, with gigachad protagonist having hilarious over the top advantage over poorly programmed NPCs).

I want to focus a little on the example chosen for comparison - Predator movie. Because it is a very peculiar choice. What do we see in the movie? First we see a team of these stereotypical Hollywood gigachad "operators" tear through a gang of Hollywood "rebels" in an absurdly one-sided tussle. Can't even call it a skirmish. The yanks have better gear, better physique, better everything, exactly as what the idiot in the image imagines yankee troops to be. And then the alien turns it upside down on them, by having better physique, better tech, etc. And it's once again not a battle, nor a fight, the alien is just hiding in the trees like a rat to occasionally pop a yank with that absurd gun of his. While invisible. And when Arnie accidentally circumvents the predator's tech - it screeches in impotent rage and fires blindly into the jungle, because its FPS sim got disturbed. Just as the yanks were firing blindly into the jungle earlier, for the same reason.

So what's the point of this rant? Well, I almost want to see those "SOF teams" try to pull their yankee shit, only to discover what "artillery barrage" means and what "peer equipment" means. But of course, useless removed-s like in the op image won't get the message and will simply continue writing similar masturbatory fanfics.

[–] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Seriously. I recently read a paper somebody linked here which went over Russian artillery doctrine. Long and the short is that the Russians can get effective artillery fires on a target inside of three minutes under optimal conditions, particularly when using UAVs for spotting. They've also gotten into the habit of attaching mortars to infantry units and forming them up into mortar teams ad hoc, giving such units some quite potent local indirect fire support.

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, which side was pressganging unwilling men into its military again

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Winter offensive is very likely because the Grande Armée is getting French winter gear and Russians are getting... whatever they get, so they'll probably freeze.

[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Just one more winter offensive bro. Believe me, we can invade Russia. It'll turn out totally different this time. C'mon bro.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Can you imagine these well equipped and well trained Alpha Males using that equipment and training to absolutely murder a bunch of humans that were pressed into service against their will? Just absolutely slaughter them. They won't stand a chance. The soil is going to run red with the blood of human beings.

Oh yeah I can and I have never been so pingu-horny .

Why yes how did you know I am an American Democratic party donor?

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[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"ill equipped conscripts", these clowns do not know the difference between reservists and conscripts. Bless those dumb mfs.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

it will be just like in the moooovies

so-true

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 1 year ago

I can picture it now:

EUROPEANS

tired of being cold this winter because the US turned off your gas supply?

fight in Ukraine where the fire is always on and fresh warming mead flows all night long.

€3,400/month (minus expenses)

[–] FoolishFool@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Cuz if there's one thing Russians can't handle, it's cold and snow.

Like how Middle-Easterners can't handle heat.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to the Predator anyways? thonk

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[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 1 year ago (17 children)

this has to be fake. are there really people who don't know the history of armies invading Russia in the winter?

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[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Positing that bad terrain, darkness and harsh climate will somehow help the people trying to push forward is incredible.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

DID YOU THINK ABOUT OUR WUNDERWAFFEN? scared-fash

IT WILL BE JUST LIKE IN THE TREATS! so-true

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

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