the only safe spots are those without religion. there is no alternative. we must cull the grasp of religion on humans as we have other barbaric practices if we are to move past this violence and hate.
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We would just find another reason to hate. The problem is people and power not necessarily religion.
If cancer was cured tomorrow, people would still eventually die, but I would rather live in a world without cancer than with.
Better not try then, let's just accept our fate and not attempt to do anything about it
Why is gutting religion the only solution? Most of humanity is religious so that seems like a really fucking stupid hill to die on when climate change is a problem we all should be preparing for. Maybe we should focus on what we have in common and build the need to collectivize from there.
there is no peace without it. you think traditional mulims will not oppose trans rights movement? there is no coexistance with people following religious rules.
I don't think you can remove it without murdering most of the planet. I do not think authoritarianism and murder are preferable to religion.
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Why are you putting words in my mouth? Who said it's the only solution?
Look at the comment you replied to. The converse of that is religion is the problem and the cause of hate rather than the excuse.
The amount of people raped, beaten, and murdered in the name of religion is unfathomable. That's why. We should absolutely deal with climate change AND get rid of all religions.
this is the same excuse conservatives use in the united states to keep human killing weapons at home. it doesnt mean we shouldnt get rid of guns. it means we get rid of guns and govern the people
same here. we can move towards abolishing the root cause of most racism and hate (religion) as well as policing and educating the terrible populace that require it.
to turn a blind eye on the root cause, is to prove you have motive in its existence.
That is a false equivalence.
It is also not true that religion is the cause of most hate. That's simply not believable in a world where money/possession exists.
Your post really comes across as incredibly immature and extremely bigoted. You can fix that.
Religions tend to give people permission to hate, if they're looking for one
People give themselves that excuse religion just happens to be the justification. Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion because they do not find value in it.
Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion
How many? Also, from that point of view religious people are hatefully pushing their beliefs on others.
People have a right to their religion, or lack-there-of. My point was that religions give permission to hate (in the text), and that's not ok.
Most religions I am aware of do not give you permission to hate in the text. Hate is a sin in Abrahamism and depending on whom it is directed at can be incredibly serious if you believe.
Unless someone is picking up sticks on a Sunday, then they should be stoned to death .
That's not advocating hate. That's a moronic religious law about not working on the sabbath which many do not follow.
It's literally "kill people who aren't your religion". How is that not hate?
Edit: also, to revisit the point: it's in the text
It's not though. It's kill the people in your religion who don't follow its laws.
And again Christians and Muslims have their own justifications for why they are not obligated to follow the laws of Judaism.
Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
Nowhere does it say he was Christian, he was just an old man in the woods. If the religions no longer believe it, it should be removed. Otherwise it's used for hate.
Edit, spelling
Well said Lucifer.
The loving India still beats in many hearts, but the drumbeats of fear and hate are loud and overwhelming. When the world rewards the demagogue spreadng fear and hate, then it makes the situation worse for those who need support in their struggle to get their loving India back.
G20 leaders will travel to India this month, all world leaders, all with the power to reign in India's head Hindu supremacist and hatemonger-in-chief. but they won't. They'll ignore a locked-down Delhi, they'll ignore all the ethnic & communal genocide conducted by Hindu supremacists in Manipur & the state-backed pogrom in Haryana, they'll ignore his dictatorship, They'll just pander to him and to Hindu supremacism. As they have done since 2014.
No one wants to try to fight India over anything. Everyone needs them as a bulwark to the PRC
Why should anyone fight India when they can curb his Hindu supremacist hatespeech & violence using diplomatic means? They could've & still can exert pressure to stop violence on religious minorities ( Muslims & Christians). But they won't because he buys their drones & jets at higher than usual prices.
FTR, Modi has already aligned himself with PRC, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Seen this year's BRICS meeting?
Because the majority of India seems to support Modi. Trying to force significant political change like restraining nationalism isn't done by asking nicely.
India is going to do what best benefits the Indian elites. As the next most likely major power due to population alone they will be an important ally for everyone.
If you paid attention to the BRICS meeting you'll note India was the one preventing China from calling all the shots.
India was the one preventing China from calling all the shots.
How? by tantruming and refusing to deplane?
By releasing reports that the two leaders had "reached a broad understanding to bring about normalcy in relations while simultaneously diffusing the situation on the borders" which China promptly refuted by issuing new maps that show Aksai Chin and the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh as belonging to China?
Population is a strength regardless of education. Large populations can vastly cut manufacturing costs for simple goods that do not require technical skills. Large populations can utilize a meat grinder approach to conflicts that smaller nations cannot easily adopt.
India's refusal to back moving away from dollarization at this point was a significant move. China was looking to make BRICS somewhat subservient to them as NATO was to the USA during the Cold War period. That isn't happening now.
Large populations can vastly cut manufacturing costs for simple goods that do not require technical skills.
we're not in the stone-age anymore, so what goods are these that don't require technical skills to manufacture? What will be the earning of people employed in these jobs? will they be able to earn enough to not depend on subsidies for survival? Will they be ableto earn enough for the kids to get eucated? what sort of a nation will we be if we depend on the majority to work in low-skill jobs? This is the future you see for india in 2023? Our freedoe fighterss had better ambitions for us in 1947.
Large populations can utilize a meat grinder approach to conflicts that smaller nations cannot easily adopt.
WTF is this argument? Using people as cannon fodder because there are so many of them, their deaths won't matter? Are you taking lessons from Putin?
Wait! Is that why we've been on the backfoot with China even though they've invaded our land multiple times in Ladakh and the NorthEast? Because we're saving our forces & energy to defend/ attack against smaller neighbours like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Nepal?
Are you being satirical or funny on purpose? because otherwise....
The same things that Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Hungarians, Czech people, and Japanese people made as their economies developed? There are all sorts of items that do not require extensive training to manufacture that people regularly use.