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The recent incident from a school in Muzaffarnagar highlights, once again, how many of India’s institutions, and its people, are failing the country’s Muslims.

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[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religions tend to give people permission to hate, if they're looking for one

[–] gowan@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People give themselves that excuse religion just happens to be the justification. Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion because they do not find value in it.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at how many hateful atheists there are wanting to force people to abandon religion

How many? Also, from that point of view religious people are hatefully pushing their beliefs on others.

People have a right to their religion, or lack-there-of. My point was that religions give permission to hate (in the text), and that's not ok.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most religions I am aware of do not give you permission to hate in the text. Hate is a sin in Abrahamism and depending on whom it is directed at can be incredibly serious if you believe.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless someone is picking up sticks on a Sunday, then they should be stoned to death .

[–] gowan@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not advocating hate. That's a moronic religious law about not working on the sabbath which many do not follow.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's literally "kill people who aren't your religion". How is that not hate?

Edit: also, to revisit the point: it's in the text

[–] gowan@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not though. It's kill the people in your religion who don't follow its laws.

And again Christians and Muslims have their own justifications for why they are not obligated to follow the laws of Judaism.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

Nowhere does it say he was Christian, he was just an old man in the woods. If the religions no longer believe it, it should be removed. Otherwise it's used for hate.

Edit, spelling