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I use FB because my family is on their.

My feed is almost entirely not my family, but "suggested" posts, and it made me realize I really hope something becomes popular to replace FB next and my family moves there.

What type of site do you hope becomes popular on the fediverse next?

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[–] Trekman10@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd really like for PeerTube to take off, especially with how YouTube/Google seem to be escalating the war on adblockers.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fun fact, video files are extremely big and cost money to host. It's a neat idea but will never be scalable in the same way that YouTube is without some form of monetization

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Funnily enough, I think federation is the only way anything is going to compete with YouTube. If the hosting costs are distributed across the network, it gets a bit more viable.

I could imagine a niche hobby focused instance funded by a patreon that hosts the videos of a few related creators. Perhaps the videos contain sponsorships which the hosting instance gets a cut of.

It would be even better if there was a BitTorrent style P2P sharing from others who have recently watched a video sharing it to other users. A bit tough from a browser, so perhaps in order to watch videos you need to sign up with (or simply just access via) a "viewer" instance that acts as a content cache and seed for other viewer instances.

Viewer instances could fund themselves through the usual selection of options, and keep a cap on costs by limiting users. I could imagine a lot of people might self host viewer instances

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 1 year ago

You're so right IMO!

I'm trying with a Lemmy art instance (we'll see how that goes eh), and I host that on a PC, why couldn't I have a bunch of art videos too? I think I can :-)

Of course, those "monetising" youtubers who "has to" "reach out" to millions of subscribers would need something else, but they won't be missed by me anyway...

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

peertube already has the bittorrent thing, just not many people watch at the same time. it needs to be easier to seed videos you watch/like without leaving the browser window open

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That was my thinking behind the viewer instances that do the seeding once the user has gone away from the browser. It also simplifies the client apps as they don't have to try and set up p2p connections in random environments (imagine someone watching something on their phone via public WiFi)

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You - or someone like you - should totally make this happen.

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why peer to peer wouldn't be scalable for this?

For not popular Videos you could have the same system as private trackers to encourage people to seed those videos.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yes, and torrents only work because they are relatively unpopular. You reach a certain scale and proportion of people who would rather just freeloader rather than seed gets too big

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[–] sadreality@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They are escalating n paying customers too...

Imagine paying 15 bucks for something having their shit shoved up your ass without consent, audio is compressed junk. They turn off 4k randomly etc...

They don't pay for any content really either just serving ads to plebs and booking profits... How are they not making money?

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh please I hope so.

It's so frustrating how many youtube creators have to play stupid games just to make it so that their own subscribers see their videos. If I'm subscribed, I wanna see on my home screen when a new video is added by someone I'm subscribed too. I don't wanna see clickbait_master_10,000's newest video on there. Like there are so many content creators with millions of subs, who get no views because the aLgOrItHm decided people don't wanna see their videos, even though all those people subbed to them.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really want to see federated wiki system, just because of how awful Fandom is and the independent wikis are all super spread out.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Ditto. And this could work really well when coupled with Lemmy, as wikis often have a comments section, that Lemmy could provide them.

[–] Trekman10@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I really hate how interwiki navigation sucks on Fandom. Like, they've done all this branding and centralizing of the Fandom platform, yet I'm pretty sure they only fairly recently started logging you in on all wikis whenever you signed in on one.

Its all just to try and be some hip pop culture thing for use to "consoom" without any effort to actually take advantage of being a central platform for the repository of lore from across culture.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m still hoping Lemmy becomes popular.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I mean I think it's popular enough to be usable at least! Which is the biggest problem with new social media, all the features in the world mean nothing if there is a small user base.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago

Not sure if it counts but more BookWyrm style services like IMDb, Discogs, etc.

[–] videogamesandbeer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pixelfed is working on stories which I'm really excited about. I love that kind of daily watch to catch up without posting on a feed that is always there. I think I've found myself hoping for a fully fleshed out discord replacement as well. Easy to manage servers with categories and channels, roles and permissions, etc.

[–] rxjamin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What app or apps can you use to access PixelFed?

[–] videogamesandbeer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I use the official app for no real reason other than thinking the dev is a cool person. Pixeldroid worked equally well.

[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Pixelfed was my answer too. I don't do a lot of photo stuff, so I mostly stay on Mastodon/Lemmy, but the Dev is a really neat guy who seems like he needs to stay busy (have you heard of Sup yet?)

Pixelfed is the one i'm hoping for too. I follow a few people on there, but it would be nice if anyone I knew used it.

[–] oillut@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

A solid equivalent to AskReddit would be nice. I know a lot have tried but they’re all too small at this point

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My god I would love to have some version of facebook without suggested content.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was looking at Facebook the other day, first time in a while, and the amount of suggested content just in the feed is ridiculous. And my feed kept showing different stuff any time I reloaded, so I have no idea if I missed any updates from anyone I actually care about. It's just so shit.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Non-stable content pisses me off. If I refresh the same URL in something like the same time period, I should get the exact same content.

Being unable to backtrack and end up where I was makes me anxious.

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bring back "sort by new" as well. No idea what they were thinking there. No I don't need to see the same 3 top popular posts for a week straight.

[–] McBinary@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There is an extension called "Social Fixer" that brings back the sort by new and allows you to filter out all the 'sponsored' and 'suggested' bullshit. It's not being actively updated anymore, but it still works fine.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I know Mastodon is more like Twitter but, I feel like it could also replace much of Facebooks functions too?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A discogs replacement would be cool, or an etsy replacement that lets you list your wares for sale and take XMR/BTC, paypal, and all those cashapp things, etc.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really a fan of BTC becoming more wide spread. I'd prefer something more akin to GNU Taler.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then you don't have to accept it, but it's already widespread enough that it should be included, especially when privacy is less of a concern than buying drugs with XMR. I should note that the marketplace idea would be limited to legal items of course. Taler is cool, but not anonymous for both parties like XMR, I'm not saying don't use it, but add it to the list rather than use Taler exclusively. No reason to not take multiple forms of payment and each "store" could choose what it accepts all the way from mailed cash to live chickens (figuratively, idk how that'd work logistically lol).

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I should note that the marketplace idea would be limited to legal items of course.

How? There's no way babysitting something like this to keep it to legal stuff wouldn't be be a full-time multi-person job.

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[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is up with Facebook being soooooo bad like that. Its just constant suggested shit of shitty videos and ads.

I hate myself every time I open it. But I habitually do so due to dropping Reddit and this has annoyingly become my next dopamine hit.

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[–] 0_0@adding.space 5 points 1 year ago

I would love to see funkwhale or another soundcloud fedi clone become more popular.

[–] pexavc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

i just want to see a bunch of random visualizers and shaders, generative art gifs blasted in my face like the old /r/woahdude

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A federated SoundCloud would be nice, especially SC became paywalled

[–] Destragras@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

There is Funkwhale that you can use for self-publishing music. You can also upload your music library privately to listen to remotely.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I actually wrote a prototype for an IPFS-based FB replacement. It... kinda worked. I could get posts to share some of the time, but I reached a point where I realized I'd need to rip out a bunch of my backend and start over to fix it and I just didn't have it in me at that time.

Since then, however, a new IPFS framework has come out that'll replace a lot of the crappy code I'd written for interfacing with IPFS. I'm thinking of blowing off the dust and trying again.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Friendica is 13 years old, but it takes a lot to get people to leave what they're comfortable with.

something to do with airlines

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

more integrated events with management, so many thing happen on facebook because of event fuctionality

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