Good. Taiwan is a country. They have a military, they make their own laws, they have their own passports, and (unlike China) they elect their government leaders.
this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2023
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What?! China has election too. Not only that, the congress will elect the president on behalf of their citizen so their citizen don't need to waste their time going to election booth. Very convenient! Even the ballot only contains one candidate so there is no confusion when casting vote.
Yes but in USA we call it electoral college
That's hilarious, well done!
Lol it already is a country. Mainland China belongs to the Republic of China (the official name of Taiwan). Mainland China is currenly under occupation by communist rebels. The Chinese Civil War never officially ended.
ROC existed way before PRC existed. Many westerners are confusing "Taiwan Independence" to mean seceding from PRC. That's not what it means. Taiwan does not need to "secede" from PRC because PRC never even stepped foot on Taiwan. "Taiwan Independence" simply means renaming the country from "Republic of China" to "Republic of Taiwan". This would mean ceding any claims that the Government of ROC had on mainland China. Whether or not this renaming happens doesn't matter since nothing really changes (besides the CCP getting triggered). Taiwan is already independent under the name "Republic of China".
The thing about that is when those rebels have held the territory for nearly a lifespan, gotten international recognition and diplomacy, built one of the strongest militaries and armies in the world, and quite frankly it’s unthinkable to imagine a situation in which they lose the mainland without a world war level conflict then they’re just like a country. It doesn’t matter that neither is willing to cede the other’s existence. The ROC can be the ROC all it wants, but from an international perspective the country that has the most claim to mainland China is the People’s Republic of China. Both are runner up in claim to the territory the other holds, but boots on either’s ground is closer to a cascade to worldwide MAD than anybody seems comfortable with.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’ve always figured taiwanian independence not to mean a name change but a mutual agreement of the other’s sovereignty over the territory they each hold and have for decades. Or in practical terms, the ROC admits it isn’t getting Beijing back and the PRC agrees to not try to conquer the island of Taiwan. Really calling it this and not a Chinese peace treaty is mostly just an acknowledgement of how ludicrously lopsided this conflict is without international support for the ROC
uhh yeah, so anyway, this is good news for Taiwan because they have a MASSIVE country on their doorstep that has been threatening to invade for decades now, and having another powerful country recognise their existence is great because it discourages mainland China from invading.
Yep ironically it's the autonomous mainland provinces which are stubbornly refusing to declare independence from the Republic of China. The ROC won't stop them, they only have to want it. I mean quite a number of KMT folks would whinge but they'd accept it.
Both are illegitimate rebels, bring back Ming dynasty.
You dare risk the wrath of the Great Khan?!?!
"Hello Ming Dynasty, do still want to claim China?"
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"Okay, I'll take silence for forfeiture of claims."
Based
It's worth pointing out that James Cleverly is the most inappropriately named person ever.
I wouldn't put it past them to have just accidentally released that document without thinking about the consequences.
When Britain first, at Heaven's command
Oh please let's have the British go into East Asia and tell them what belongs to who
Oh please let's have the Chinese go into East Asia and get their asses handed to them again like the Vietnamese did.