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[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 96 points 1 year ago

Both where fighting against fictional problems.

[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't evangelicals hate Harry potter?

Or is it now acceptable for anti woke reasons?

Jesus is woke now too apparently.

Guess nothing really matters to the right wing/evangelicals except more hate

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Guess nothing really matters to the right wing/evangelicals except more hate

Exactly.

[–] Flabbelgnarpf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s so funny because all the time they tried to ignore the fact that their Jesus was in fact what they would call a socialist.ä and pretty many stuff in the bible says things like:

„It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.“ — Mark 10:25 (You hear that Kenneth Copeland? Well you look like the devil himself already.)

“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.“ — Matthew 6:2 (Basically the opposite of what most of them full blown proud Christians do. Isn’t pride even a Sin?)

„And all those who were of the faith were one in heart and soul: and not one of them said that any of the things which he had was his property only; but they had all things in common.“ — Acts 4:32 (That’s probably a ancient Woodstock feeling.)

„If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?“ — Johannes 3:17 (Tax the rich is basically this, but with more steps.)

“Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.” Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!‘“— Deuteronomy 27:19 (Can you see it? It says build the wall and cage children without their mothers right there.)

[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's Johannes? Never heard of that book.

[–] Flabbelgnarpf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

John. Lost in translation.

[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

John 3:17 is "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."

[–] Flabbelgnarpf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I John I think. But it’s there in Johannes. But in German. 😅

[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah, I see. I didn't realize there was more than one John.

[–] Flabbelgnarpf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

"Then the Lord spoke to the Tech Support, saying, 'Thou shalt never install pre-release software on devices whereof thou lackest a backup, and which thou usest daily. For the Lord is aware that thou wouldst miss thy data.'" John v3.6(Public Beta)

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMO he an AnSoc as he isn't pushing for hierarchies other than God.

[–] Flabbelgnarpf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well. It’s not like it’s consistent. Pretty bad writing actually. All the lore about plagues and stuff.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

It's almost as if there were dozens of writers

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He respects the. Though "give to Cesar what is due to Cesar" or some BS. Definitely not an anarchist.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's in the context of someone asking if they should pay taxes which is seen as either a gotcha question from someone in the crowd (advocating not paying taxes was a serious crime) or was added later by the Roman state when they canonized the Bible.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More likely that it was added in during the late first century.

It's anachronistic for Judea in ~30 CE given there was no personal tax, no coins with Ceaser's image on them, and the term 'Ceaser's to refer to the emperor hadn't become a colloquialism to the best of our knowledge.

But had an author of a gospel been writing in, say, Alexandria later on where there was a personal tax and there were coins with Ceaser's image on them and it had become a way of referring to the emperor, you might expect to see that line added in.

Similarly is the emphasis on marriage being between a man and a woman.

Perhaps less socially relevant before Nero married two men while emperor of Rome, which takes place after Jesus was crucified but before most scholars think the first Synoptic gospel was written.

Then on the flip side of the survivorship bias are things that a historical Jesus probably said that aren't in canon, such as saying 81 in the Gospel of Thomas:

Let one who has become wealthy reign, and let one who has power renounce .

Quite relevant to Pilate's reign when Tiberius had inherited being emperor rather than earning it through merit and had abandoned the throne to party on an island for years but didn't hand over the position to anyone else.

Also a line seemingly referred to in 1 Cor 4:8.

And yet it shouldn't quite be surprising that the version of texts decided to be canon right after the emperor of Rome had converted to Christianity doesn't include the pithy line decrying dynastic rule.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So? That's still clear respect for the state. It doesn't say "I don't believe in the state, but kid you should probably still pay taxes to stay out of jail".

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The debate, which I won't go into here because Im on a phone and not nearly familiar enough with Koine Greek, is whether that was something added decades later by the government or whetjer the person asking Jesus that question was trying to entrap him. I suspect it us the former myself.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

There's no debate since the church sees the bible as canon. The whole point is moot, since either the bible is canon, or the whole thing is garbage (I lean the latter).

[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

Evangelicals don't give a shit about anything, their just nihilists coping by acting like they read a bible.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tbf Daniel Radcliffe has been pretty vocal about how he does not agree with Rowlings hateful views

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

It was a good joke though

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Both are fictional characters

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • One was accused of rape
  • One tried to steal an election
  • One had friends
  • One defeated his opponent
[–] Kattail_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

when did Harry Potter try to steal an election-?/j

And both have rich and powerful TERFs on their side!

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

...what did Trump win? All of those accusations against him were correct.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

The 2016 election?

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.studio 6 points 1 year ago

First it was liberals, now it’s conservatives…

Everyone is trying to compare politics to Harry Potter

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm offended nerdly

[–] spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

War is peace

Freedom is slavery

Ignorance is strength

[–] 4kki@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Why, Harry Potter, why?

[–] avoidswoop@mas.to 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] xxxSexMan69xxx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] avoidswoop@mas.to 1 points 1 year ago

@xxxSexMan69xxx Sad. I really thought you could. A mastodon and lemmy federation would be so amazing

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] avoidswoop@mas.to 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@wildbus8979 I'm on mastodon. And everything is called a post here afaik

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That's fine, but you're specifically posting to Lemmy and obviously that's not the case here.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Can't see any posts on your profile from feddit.de either.