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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ll only drive automatic. No desire to work harder at driving in the city.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What, you don't want to shift gears endlessly while stuck moving between 10 mph and a dead stop on the freeway for three hours?

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 114 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hear me out for a second...

Maybe, just maybe, it's spending 3 hours in stop and go traffic that's the problem, not the transmission.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, but having lived it myself with a manual transmission, it's rough with a manual. It's one of the few scenarios where I don't prefer it.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm one of the weirdos who wouldn't mind this. I've been dailying my '97 Prelude for most of the summer since I bought it. I didn't think I'd want to drive it in traffic, but honestly, it's not the stop and go that ruins the experience for me. It's the fact that if I get hit by just about any of the trucks on the road, I'm getting a faceful of bumper and best I can hope for is to retain the use of my arms. It's basically a motorcycle that I can't lowside.

But I totally get that I'm a fringe case. I completely understand why this would just be too much for someone to want to keep up with in stop and go traffic. Besides, all that starting is bad for clutches. Autos with torque converters handle it a million times better.

Most people aren't car enthusiasts and enthusiasts need to come to terms with it. Manuals are dying. It's just the way the world is moving. Let's enjoy what we have now and appreciate we get to be a part of something we love.

[–] scifu@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think cars may have something to do with traffic but not sure.

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[–] yojimbo@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For me the only reason to drive manual was becase automats used to be less effective. With current generation, the computer with its 12 gears is much more ecological then my macho hand lovingly stroking my cars stick can ever be..

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (14 children)

My biggest thing is that they make people pay more attention. I dont think better drivers drive stick, i think the stick makes YOU a better driver.

Less eating, drinking, phone holding, texting etc.

On another note, i think on average manual trans are less prone to failure. I know alot of cars that have essentially been junked due to an auto trans problem, but a manual just needs a new clutch every one and a while. Though this might be less common on newer cars compared to 90's and early 2000's cars.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

And with the rise of EVs auto transmission failures will be a thing of the past. Except for the few sports EVs that for some reason have a multiple gears.

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[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago

I drive a manual because all through the 90s a manual was a lot more reliable and cheaper to fix than an automatic. I also hated the automatic gear selection. It was always in a gear I didn’t want. I recently had a rental car which was a Ford with a 10-speed automatic and yeah they have come a long way. I’ve only ever owned manuals but I think my next car will be an auto. I hear reliability is good now.

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[–] spauldo@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Handbrake start is for noobs. Learn to use your clutch.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Roll backwards into the person behind you to establish manual dominance.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On a steep hill, your clutch will thank you for using the handbrake. Especially in stop and go traffic towing a trailer. Ask me how I know.

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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cars are for nubes, real chade walks🫡. Talking about the true manual here.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

true! although wouldnt manual be walking on ones hands ?

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Handbrake start is what's taught in countries where the the driving test isn't "Press go pedal, press stop pedal, congrats you passed"

In upward inclines it's better for your clutch too.

Not having the coordination to use both feet and both hands independently of each other is what's for noobs

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I got pulled over a couple of months ago and the cop told me to put it in park. I wiggled the stick back and forth to show it was in neutral and they thought I was fucking with them and kept saying to put it in park. Idiots

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[–] sLLiK@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I do, too, and drove one for many years. I'll be the one to splash cold water on the conversation, though.

Driving a stick arguably requires the use of both hands and legs, which is great and partly the reason why so many enjoy it - that sense of engagement. It's far less boring.

But here's the deal. Injure any one of those appendages and driving a manual becomes a whole lot less fun. In some cases, you can get by, but it's less than ideal. Having your arm closest to the shift in a sling, for example, makes your vehicle undrivable.

It won't matter to most people... right up until the moment it does.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • Clutch with left foot

  • stabilize steering wheel with right knee (if necessary)

  • reach over with left hand and engage gear

  • grab steering wheel with left hand

  • drive normally

Me drinking coffee in the morning, a tutorial.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a manual aficionado, but my mother hasn't driven a stick, despite teaching all her children how to, since I was born due to her arthritis. Apparently her knees don't like having to clutch constantly. I'd rather have her mobile and active as she is now, than have her stuck at home reliant on my dad to give her rides.

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[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I just got a car with no transmission instead

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[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (13 children)

All of these people responding that they prefer auto so they can eat or otherwise not pay attention in the car are the best (only?) argument for why everyone should drive manual.

Whatever your transmission preference is, if you're not engaged in driving you shouldn't be on the road!

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[–] iegod@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every car I've owned has been manual and I hate my latest decision since 99% of my driving is stop and go. Honestly I'd prefer no cars at all.

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It is very difficult to find manual transmission in a passenger car in the US now. I would like one but good luck finding what you want used. Even new, very few models have a manual option. And I think it costs more for a manual transmission now. It used to be cheaper.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The cheapest car I know of off the lot is a base model versa which comes with a manual that’s decent.

The noob trap is “upgrading” it to get the automatic. It’s maybe the worst new cvt you can buy.

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[–] partizan@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went from a inline 6 BMW diesel manual engine I drive for 10 years to my current Mazda 6 2.5L with automatic. Its easier and more luxurious to drive the automatic, but when I going for drive enjoyment I still have the habit of grabbing the shift lever when downshift is needed, and I often miss the feel and control of the manual when I edging it on curvy roads, even when my automatic has shift paddles, its just not the same.

But in a traffic jam in a city, for sure I will any day take an automatic over manual...

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[–] THED4NIEL@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, dude/dudette, I'm done churning butter. If you have to change gear every two seconds because the bellend infront of you couldn't navigate a straight road it just gets annoying.

Also handbrake start at a hill is for amateurs who don't know their transmission (⌐■_■) yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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[–] TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I rented an electric car over the summer and the acceleration damn near pushed my eyeballs back in my head. No gear shifting at all, just continuous acceleration. An electric grocery getter will blow the doors off nearly everything you can throw at it from the previous 50 years. Will not be looking back fondly on my manual transmissions.

[–] raptir@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Speed has not been the reason to get a manual for a long time.

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[–] ipha@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The the car I drive for work has a volume knob and I hate it with a passion.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those piss me off for reasons beyond manual supremacy - they're bad UI design too. A knob is for controlling something (like volume) which varies continuously over a range. It is not for selecting from a short list of discrete options!

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, gotcha! We need a menu inside the entertainment system where you can select a gear via touch-screen... /s

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Spent all my life driving manual cars and I am completely comfortable and at ease with their pending demise due to hybrids and full BEVs. I wouldn't be surprised if some EVs get phony gears and broom broom noises for people who can't cope with just having to set a direction and push a pedal to make things happen.

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My car is a stick shift. I love it.

But our pickup and my wife's car are both automatic. Those are fine, too. Stop and go traffic - I'm gonna want an automatic. The pickup is for towing our trailer, and while I understand theoretically a stick would be better for that purpose, I'm glad to have the automatic and not have to worry about it. Plus then my wife can occasionally drive it as well.

I've driven fast automatics, and I've driven slow stick shifts. It's never just ONE thing about a car.

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[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's funny manual is the standard here so there's no ego boost to driving one, people always tell me it's because we have more corners which has never made any sense (I e. You need to go into second or third at roundabout which I think older autos would have a little lag with or something, certainly not a problem in cars from this century)

I would love an automatic, i think it would make my driving safer in several ways, for a start not having to focus on gears at key moments like navigating road changes and corners or pulling away in a busy carpark. When I drove in the US it was so nice not having to constantly be doing stuff in traffic that I wasn't anywhere near as tired which again is a big safety issue

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hypermiling in a manual is fun.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Getting >30mpg out of a pickup ftw.

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[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We let computers make our lives better in hundreds of other ways, but somehow when it's a fully developed one, in a car, that's bad?

The last time a rolling start would've helped me was in like 2002 in my 1989 junker so yeah color me unconvinced. People like to claim that automatics waste gas but the way you see people drive sticks leads me to believe the reverse is usually true.

I'll take life with computers, you can revert to 1955 driving if you like.

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[–] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Dracona@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I learned to drive in an automatic.. in the 1980s. Pretty common here in Australia. Yes can drive a manual as well but prefer auto as I have arthritis. Many disabled people prefer auto.

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[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Manual transmission is half arsed. If you really want manual, ride a bike.

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[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Come at me bro - I TEACH people to ONLY drive automatic cars. Muahaha! I get paid more to do it than manual instructors AND I don't have to worry about learners constantly making bad gear changes, bunny hopping and stalling my car all the time!

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[–] bjfar@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to enjoy manual but now I just kind of hate driving in general so I am happier with auto where I can eat chips or something while driving to make the traffic feel less hellish. Looking forward to self driving cars so I can just take a nap while getting from A to B.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Automatic transmissions existed before computers were controlling them. The 3 speed auto in my 68 Ford is entirely hydraulicly operated. No computer control. I can roll-start it no problem in second gear.

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