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[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This sounds like what HR wants you to think about your colleagues. Can’t organise if can’t trust your colleagues.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

As a Union member, allow me to remind you all that HR do not care about you and will never address any grievances you have because their job is to limit the legal liability of the company and stop you suing.

Do not trust HR.

Do not think they have your best interests at heart.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

And HR people can never be trusted to be on your side on any issue. Never, ever confide in an HR person, getting rid of you in some way is always the easiest solution to any problem.

Only when you first take outside council and then go to HR through them, do you have some sort of protection from getting swept under the rug.

[–] TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a non American professional, allow me to remind you that that's not the case everywhere. There are company's and country's where employees are safe and valued.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are also managers that are actually interested in knowing the complaints of workers. Many things can be done to improve the situation. (again, as non american)

[–] SpiritedTaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Also as a non-american, I don't think I have ever trusted a co-worker in my 15+ years of professional experience. It's all fun and giggles until they see an opportunity to climb the ladder, and then colleagues will throw you under the bus without even blinking. Best to be safe than sorry.. Also, living is a miserable existence.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

How convenient it must be for HR for everyone to be afraid of everyone else? How could you possibly unionize or form a cooperative if you fear and distrust your fellow workers?

This post is sus.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an HR professional

If you want to have fun, go watch your HR employees on linkedin. They frequently goes directly into HR from jobs requiring no skills at all.

They are complete tools.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fearmongering.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Even tho I disagree, at least I know that I wouldn't want to work with you.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I like my coworkers enough that I don’t want to put them in a position where they might have to choose between “snitching” and loyalty to me.

It’s not fair to expect another to put their job (or reputation with management) at risk, just for my benefit. If I did expect it, that would make me a selfish prick who didn’t deserve their friendship in the first place.

[–] transientDCer@lemdro.id 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work for a company that champions their diversity and inclusion stuff EVERYWHERE. I'm partially deaf and wear hearing aids. At a company hosted Christmas Party they had this Cards Against Humanity style game - it wasnt CAH, all of the cards were pretty innocent - like speak in an accent, treat the card as a baby, etc. New guy got a card that said "Imitate someone at the table". He turned to the guy next to him and said "I can't hear you, can you repeat that" - mocking me for being deaf. One of people at the table caught on really quick and was like WTF did you just say?

Nobody laughed. The other person reported the incident to HR and I had to recap the whole thing to them. The guy never apologized for it. HRs resolution was that I could "leave the team" or the company if I didn't want to work with him anymore. This person was one of five people on my team. I didn't leave the team mostly because my manager was pretty supportive and didn't agree with the HR outcome.

So yeah. Coworkers aren't your friends and neither is HR. We got 84% on our D&I score for employee engagement ratings this year.

Projection.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Between the social policy wars they stoke with the media and political parties they fully own, and the celebrated cut-throat work culture they demand with the promise of slightly larger crumbs, the owners have ensured we, their livestock, stay at each other's throats so we never look up at our common enemy.

Just how they want it. Snitches are class traitors doing their master's work against their own interests.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Oooohhhh I'm telling on you!!!!

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter, I still ain't no snitch. And no pussy fart at work is gonna change that.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago

I disagree. My coworkers wouldn't generally snitch for the hell of it. That would take effort and they are much to focused on actual work to care. Plus, stirring the pot carries risk.

However, they and I certainly would not stick out my neck for a coworker. But that's not what this post is suggesting. It appears to suggest active hostility is the norm. In that case, find a different workplace.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Given that the tweet is from an HR person, who puts the company first, her telling people that fellow workers are not their friends absolutley sounds like trying to sow division/mistrust between class-allies.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

How much did the Pinkertons pay her to say this?

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

As a team leader let me tell you that coworkers "snitching" is useless anyway (at least here in Germany). Just play the mobbing card and their testimony is out the window.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what HR wants you to believe.

[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, Curve Gotti, if you work in that environment.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you work somewhere shitty. Most of my coworkers mind their own business because they are too busy working to do anything else. Only time I’ve seen people “snitch” was to throw poor management under the bus, or corroborate sexual harassment complaints. And I’m not going to complain about that.

[–] el_guapazo@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd snitch on my co-worker teachers if they were propping the exterior doors for students at my school. That's MY safety they're risking.