Brave, brave Sir Robin.
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Bravely ran away away
I still think he's going to pull some stunt. He's incapable of just simply obeying something like this.
The stunt is going to be after the booking, when he holds a press conference and says stupid shit which would revoke anyone else's bail agreement, but he will continue to get a pass because his followers are a dangerous cult.
I think you're right. As much as it galls me, he'll suffer no consequences because he has millions of armed angry followers. One speech from him might actually start a civil war.
Fuck rupert murdoch and fox news for ratcheting up the rhetoric over the years to keep their viewers scared, angry, and glued to their TVs. And fuck right wing talk radio for doing the same thing.
I know it would be a terrible thing but it would be the most one-sided civil war in the history of ever.
His followers are massively gung ho but they really only care about themselves. Once actual consequences, such as returning fire, make themselves felt I suspect a lot of them will slink off back to Alabama or whatever.
There will be a lot of grumbling and accusations from them, but they won't do anything very much because they don't dare. Having guns won't protect you from the US military if the US military doesn't like you, and they'll soon work that one out.
He tried to rally his followers before and got like 5 people showing up. That ship has sailed, he's not an unassailable lord and it harms Democracy to pretend he is.
I blame Rush for being the true catalyst for all the hatred.
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Turning himself in the day after the GOP debate is the stunt.
They'll just process and release him. He's out on bond in several places at this point.
Yep.
No matter what happens at the debate, all the news will be talking about the next morning is trump turning himself in.
If he waited till the last day like he said, they'd have a day in the news cycle
He’s playing this up like he’s the victim.
After Covid he planned on wearing a Superman logo. He’s definitely thinking of a way to show off. Maybe arrive in prison stripes and claim the prosecutor demanded it?
Some of the other clowns in the circus might pull a stunt like that, but Trump is the Whiteface, the clown that emphasizes pride and arrogance.
He would never allow himself to do something that he thinks will look bad. Not to say his bungling incompetence doesn't do that for him, it's just that he won't do it as a conscious choice.
Clowns are somewhat interesting.the Whiteface is the know-it-all straight man, and the Auguste is the bumbling doofus who is the butt of every joke. The Auguste is the first to get a pie in the face. You laugh at the Auguste.
The Whiteface on the other hand is the person telling you who to laugh at. They tell the mean jokes to get the audience to laugh at others. This makes it so much more satisfying when the Auguste finally hits the Whiteface with the pie.
Anyway Trump couldn't tell a joke if his life depended on it, but he still fills the role of Whiteface in this circus. He'll pull stunts, but only if he thinks it will make someone else look bad.
This is a very unique take and I’m here for it.
I've spent far too much time thinking about clowns and clown history for someone who doesn't tell jokes. I spent some time researching comedy and how it's changed over the years.
For example, the classic roles of comedy still sort of carry over to modern comedians. For example, Goerge Carlin was a classic example of a Whiteface. His comedy was almost always about telling you who you should be laughing at. He pointed, and you laughed, he never took a pratfall, You never laughed at him.
Robin Williams on the other hand more often took on the role of the Auguste, the Red Nose (Because they're the only clowns that wear the red nose prop). He was loud and boisterous, and took pratfalls. You laughed at his antics, his physical humor, just as much as at what he said.
The Auguste is almost always the butt of the joke when there's a Whiteface, but can be the one playing the jokes when paired with a Rube (A straight man who isn't in on the joke)
There are more classic clown roles that exist, the Tramp is an American clown (but the underlying concept is global) that is always the butt of every joke. Their makeup is usually patterned after the 1930s hobo, they take the sad clown motif to the extreme. The sort of "my life is so shit that it's funny" kind of archetype. Or they can show up in a sort of "the prince and the pauper" situation where they're either slobs in a high society setting, or show refined manners while eating out of a trashcan.
The Tramp is like an extreme form of the Auguste. While the Auguste might get revenge on the Whiteface, the Tramp never will. Also, the Auguste will abuse the Tramp in exactly the same way that he in tern is abused by the WhiteFace.
The Three Stooges come to mind for this dynamic, although none of them were really the Tramp. Larry was firmly an Auguste, and Curly and Shep were closer to the Tramp side of things, but were still Auguste. Moe was a Whiteface.
Anyway, I hope that helps to explain the circus that is the Trump org. They aren't trying to be clowns, but they fit the roles.
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Had to edit this comment. There's more!
Here's the arrest list so far:
Cathy Latham, 5'2" 155 lbs
Scott Hall, 6'0" 235 lbs
John Eastman, 5'7" 160 lbs
David Shafer, 5'5" 150 lbs
Kenneth Chesebro, 5'11" 185 lbs
Ray Stallings Smith III, 5'11" 195 lbs
13 more traitors to go, less than 3 days left.
Can someone convert these to Courics? That's the natural unit for pieces of shit anyway
I don't think Bono has anything to do with this
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Omg actual height and weight data on Trump tomorrow?
With or without the lifts and diaper?
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So what's the Secret Service procedure on having someone they're protecting be booked in a State Court system?
I doubt it ever happened before, so whatever the policy will be, it's going to be brand new
They enter a cognitively dissonant state until their heads explode.
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Just like he proudly presented that evidence earlier?
I'm still pissed I didn't get to see that. It would have been so fucking funny.
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This more than anything makes me feel like he might actually flee. He always says the opposite of the truth, like when he said that he won the election.
He can't. The Secret Service are assigned to him. They're not just bodyguards...
The same secret service that tried to lure Mike Pence into a car to remove him from the Capitol?
The same secret service that Mike Pence said "if I get in that car I know I'm not coming back?
The same secret service that had to be completely rotated after Biden took office because there was a legitimate threat to Biden?
The same secret service that deleted their phone records after January 6th?
Yeah I'm sure they're all in the good and none of them would defect with Trump
Edit: oh, And there's this article that was posted to c/politics about half an hour ago
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/emails-reveal-secret-service-contacts-with-oath-keepers/
Not when it has to do with his pride/ego.
If he is telling his supporters being arrested is a point of pride, he will go in and be arrested, and hell make comments while he does.
Pride goeth before the fall
Someone just needs to jail him
I wish, but I think some of his more... enthusiastic supporters would get violent.
I imagine that the Federal and Georgian governments want to avoid a horde of people rioting and trying to free him from jail. There would be assholes just itching to open fire on "the deep state" and you'd need the national guard to defend the prison/jail. Even if the trumpists started it, such a thing might actually spark a civil war.
I hope they do.
That way our national guard can put them down.
If you don't do the right thing because you're afraid of bad actors, then the bad actors have won. I'm afraid of violence, too. But if the courts find him guilty on a charge that leads to incarceration, then he should be held to the same standard.
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Trump puts on an act, but I think this breaks him
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Can't say that any of those things you listed someone should be ashamed of, but maybe not proud of them either.
Fwiw, Trump either genuinely believes he's done nothing wrong, or he needs his fans to believe it, so him saying this kinda tracks.
I guess there's a reason pride is a deadly sin
I get your point but I don't think anyone should be ashamed where they're from, per se. I have no power over where I'm born.
Just because you shouldn't feel proud of something doesn't mean you should be ashamed of it, and I don't think they're implying one should be. I'm not proud that I have a nose, but I'm not ashamed I do either; I just have one.
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Lol
I bet Trump smiles for the camera like fuckin' Tom DeLay did. Smarmy bastards, the both of 'em.
Everything he does, he does with pride.
And I will proudly laugh my ass off when the traitor shitcunt is imprisoned.
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