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[–] teft@startrek.website 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hottest 36 days ever recorded...so far.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Nobody panic!

The only people that matter, who also happen to be the ones that caused and continue to exacerbate the climate apocalypse knowingly for private profit, have built luxury bunker complexes in temperate places like New Zealand to shield themselves from the consequences of their own actions.

No one important is in danger, just us billions of disposable capital batteries, no biggie.

Now get back to work! The owners/Pharoahs/oligarchs/beloved job creators have quarterly ego score expectations to exploit out of you before you die of heat stroke as a result of your bad decisions, like being poor!

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New Zealand won't be exempt from climate change and they have to come out of their bunkers at some point. I always ask myself what good their money will be when global trade collapses. How long until their security guards realize that they hold the real power?

[–] schzztl@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

It's already happening, North Island has been flooding so much this year it's barely newsworthy anymore. And yet people think voting in the rightwing "we need to be fiscally conservative but also we will spend billions on roads" party is a good idea.

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[–] intelati@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Laughs and sobs simultaneously

[–] flipht@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The hottest 36 days on record. Also the coolest summer we can expect to see for the rest of our lives.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This graph is the most damning. We’ve made zero progress according to the only metric that matters.

[–] b_boy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does the graph begin at 1959?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I believe that’s the NOAA data source and they started measuring this in the late 50’s. The direct measurement data doesn’t go further back because the technology to measure and or concern wasn’t there.

That said, people have been able to extrapolate past carbon ppm through means other than direct measurement.

https://theconversation.com/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687#:~:text=Humans%20were%20already%20increasing%20carbon,carbon%20dioxide%20into%20the%20air.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago

When should it begin?

[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

See you next summer.

This will be the coolest summer you ever experience.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So that's why all the conservatives are laughing and cheering. I was wondering why they were celebrating. They are accomplishing their mission of killing us all.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they're gearing up for the "Climate change is real, but we just need to genocide more of the people with a <100kg/yr carbon footprint to fix it" chapter of dogshit rhetoric soon.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll never say that in good faith because it's the rich that have the biggest carbon footprints.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My point is they'll (continue to) blame the people whose carbon footprints are <1% of theirs and would be manageable for centuries and advocate for genocide as a solution.

Currently blaming the global south is just used to deflect.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Killing everyone will kill more liberals than conservatives, so it's a net positive for them!

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fun fact: All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover. That is, this year isn't really exceptional climate-change wise, it's just that we could witness, by fortuitous natural experiment, how much worse it actually already is... as well as that we can limit the impact by geoengineering. It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

And the good news is that we don't need to blow sulphur into the air to generate clouds, the same effect can be had by blowing salt water into the air, just strap a couple of water cannons to every cargo ship. No I'm dead serious.

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover.

You have your causality running backwards... this was already here, and the sulfur was masking it. This happened because we put so many GHG in the air.

It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

Europe is the one that initiated the sulfur reductions. With the additional dimming data now available, they reviewed it to determine how much damage had been caused. The conclusion? The benefits of reducing sulfur actually outweigh the damage of unmasked warming. The plan for further reductions was upheld.

If we mask radiative forcing, we don't want to be doing it with sulfur. That leads to acid rain, ocean acidification, and asthma and other diseases. CaCO3 is a candidate. The long-term consequences of any candidate is unknown. Except that we know that the less sulfur raining down on us and the fish in general, the better.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have your causality running backwards… this was already here, and the sulfur was masking it.

Which is what I said?

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Tldw: Hank Green video.

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

... also the coolest 36 days of summer of the rest of our life

[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the Fossil Fuel Industry Doesn't Want You To Know | Al Gore | TED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZC6da4mco

Oil barrons merely see global warming as yet another catastrophe to take advantage of for power and profit, they will have their companies pump oil til there's not a single drop left to pump anywhere, using every excuse they can find to keep pumping and polluting while evading taxes and regulation as much as possible. They are evil scum and belong in jail for their lies and behavior.

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[–] bentropy@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It is totally terrifying but also very strange to read about the record heat everywhere while we here in Germany had probably the coldest July in a decade. We had 16C where we should have had 30C. And we had rain, a lot of rain.

Still, I'm terrified.

[–] billstickers@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Apparently the average is up in Germany, you just haven’t had any extremes this year.

https://twitter.com/rarohde/status/1688486834890854401?s=46&amp;t=041FqqqpppFjW7CoNV9wDw

[–] Cuteblooded@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I saw hail in fucking July in the Netherlands...
Also lots of rain of course.
Shit's getting crazier and crazier.

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[–] jeanma@lemmy.ninja 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't the massive fires (energy and compounds generated) exacerbate these values?

Don't make me say what I didn't say.

[–] danny@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No actually fires have an overall negative (lowering) effect on temperatures, because the smoke reduces the sun energy from reaching land over large areas, it’s been well established that areas affected by smoke will have lower peak temps than they otherwise would have. Except it can cause temps to stay higher overnight by preventing the heat from escaping into atmosphere.

But in terms of highest temps ever recorded.. it doesn’t seem fires would contribute to that at all, more just a consequence of the high temps (drying effect).

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do we win? I hope someone makes a movie about us.

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the movie 2012 comes to mind for whatever reason lol

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

'Don' t look up' it's a depressing documentary dressed up as a dark comedy focusing on the incapacity of competence to sway the tide of general ignorance.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some didn't survive & that's a problem.

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[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phoenix just broke its record for consecutive days over 110° at 31, previous record was half that...

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[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile in germany: 13°C and endless rain.

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[–] potopato@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

43 ºC in my town today. Now we are at 32 ºC and is 23:00.

This is hell.

[–] mookulator@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

…since 1979

Edit: not saying there’s not a climate change disaster happening, but some of these analyses are a little misleading.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

not saying there’s not a climate change disaster happening, but some of these analyses are a little misleading.

Except that to only say "...since 1979" is to comment in either ignorance or bad faith (your pick). We maintained record breaking temps ALL above the prior record for 36 is the damn point, and to miss that is to miss the entire thing.

There have been 44 years since 1979. Lets say the probability of getting 1 day above the 1979 record in a given year is 1/44 (uniform). The probability of even getting a week of the hottest days in one year would be (1/44)^7, would be a one in 300 billion chance. There are some issues and some assumptions I'm making for convenience, but its not ok to make idle comments with no comprehension of the scale of extremity this event represents.

As in, do you have any fucking idea how unlikely that is? This isn't an 'oopsie poopsie' funny record event.

[–] bloodfoot@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to be too pedantic but your back of the envelope probabilities are based on inaccurate assumptions and probably several orders of magnitude off. Specifically, your not just assuming uniform but also independent from one day to the next. A more accurate treatment would be to assume conditional dependence from one day to the next (the Markov property). Once you have a record hot day, you are significantly more likely to have another record hot day following it.

That said, it’s still low probability, just not as low as what you’re saying.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any thoughts on how I could incorporate that for a better back of the napkin?

[–] bloodfoot@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

If we stick with your 1/44 assumption, we can then assume 50% chance that the following day will also be a record setting day (probably too low still but the math is easier). Your one week estimate would be (1/44)*(1/2)^6.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While the data presented here only goes back to 1979, I seem to recall that some scientists worked out global average temperatures based on coral reef core samples and ice core samples. I think there were some other samples too but I can't remember what they were. So they are the hottest ever

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't find any indication that 1979 had a 36-day heatwave with anything approaching the temperatures we're seeing.

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[–] SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, some of us didnt

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[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isolated islands catching on fire because it's so goddamn hot doesn't feel like surviving.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's not true

Continents are also on fire

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