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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think if you open your mind a little you may discover someone challenging your beliefs can be helpful to a conversation.

That’s part of the culture I grew up in: arguing and challenging each other as part of talking. Feel free to try it out or adopt it.

[–] JoeClu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know I understand you. That was the way with me too. It took me a long time into adulthood to tone that down as I wasn't making friends and people seemed to think I was an asshole. It really sucked cause I seriously didn't mean any harm or disrespect, but most took it that way for some reason.

Now, after endless questioning of myself, I've learned to adapt to my audience.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a really hard time with it because it seems so non-spontaneous. What even is the point of discussing things without disagreement?

I see these conversations that are just people agreeing with each other and I just don’t get it. I don’t want to be a part of it.

But I don’t want to be alone.

[–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Err, I don't see a point in disagreeing for the sake of it - I have a similar problem to you though. I get awkward or silent when I don't have anything original, new or even interesting to say, like you are uncomfortable with 'agreement'.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No I don’t disagree for the sake of it. Most conversations I agree with … but I don’t say it. It’s when I disagree genuinely, that I speak up.

[–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Persuasion works best when you work off commonalities rather than differences. Though I understand you're trying to go for combative argumentation.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know that. I’m a salesman. I don’t talk to my customers like I talk to people here, because when I’m talking to a customer my goal is persuasion.

I am very suspect of persuasion as a motivation for conversing socially. I can do it to make money, but who am I to think that others accepting my ideas is more important than honesty? I might be wrong! If I follow the safe path that makes everybody like me, when will I ever know that I’m wrong?

I’ve always been an outsider. Maybe I always will be, because this always nice stuff just seems slimy to me. It’s exactly how the villains in the cartoons I watched growing up behaved: everybody’s friend, always pleasant, saying the most popular thing.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

maybe read up on softening statements

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, by the way

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I’ll check it out, thanks