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Because they couldn't. He bought the bag before they automatically tracked all purchasers with a unique ID on the bags they sell. The CEO of PD actively called the tip line.

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[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 168 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Just so everybody knows, when you decide to do your own homework, you should go to your local thrift store and purchase the most Generic clothing and Accessories that you can. No High end brand names. Something mass produced.

And ffs, don’t leave shit at the scene.

I admire his ability to complete a project, but I have some notes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And have more than one fake ID, and multiple changes of clothing stashed on the escape route. And ditch the firearm in the bag with a rock in the river at night. Don't try to hide out in bum fuck Pennsylvania. And don't carry your manifesto with you, I don't wander around outside unmasked when it's cold enough to be masked. Probably don't etch the casings yourself. Matter of fact don't drop casings for the gun you used.

Assuming he actually made these mistakes there's a whole lot of hindsight to go around.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you get stopped by police a week later, after you've ditched everything including fake IDs, just use your real fucking ID.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He should have just hid out in Baltimore He's from there

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't try to hide out anywhere I'm from. Just personally I'd rather be anonymous rando. If you've never been those little motel places on the side of the road don't care why you're there and take cash. They could be involved in small time illegal shit too which means they already know what everyone should- Don't talk to the police.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ideally, they shouldn't have known he did it. They shouldn't have had a picture of him unmasked. Nobody would have thought twice about him flying out of BWI He's got family there.

You're just one in a million until you show up in a McDonald's in Altoona with your face plastered all over the TV and a fake reward, a gun and a fake ID in your bag.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what I want to know, why he kept the gun and fake ID? He had resources presumably to make more if he wanted to continue.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We can only presume so much. it's entirely possible that the stuff was planted on him. But if he did have the manifesto on a Reddit account, months to years prior, and other places....

When we saw the video we all looked at it and went that looks pretty professional. Then again Hollywood is the only reference most of us have.

He's got a good bulldog of a lawyer coming. If he goes down it's going to be because of a overwhelming amount of evidence not because there were a few plants in his bag.

The questions you should probably ask are:

was that license used to check into the hostel

Was that license used to get the bus ticket from New York City to wherever?

Does he have a good credible reason to be on a bus from New York to God knows where, stopping in Altoona.

If that bus ticket was bought with that ID... That's pretty damning.

Why not ditch the stuff?

Maybe he was trying to get caught

Maybe he was planning to pull something else off (again smart money would be on getting new equipment/id)

Maybe he was planning on doing himself in, and hadn't had the opportunity to ditch the ID after getting on the bus.

Carrying the manifesto however... If that's not a plant, again it will be in his handwriting with his DNA all through it, That's just bad form.

Bottom line, he's not a professional. And maybe our collective got check of what a professional is, is someone off base.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Good analysis. I'm just going to repeat from the start- I am not a gun professional. I'm barely an amateur. I could make that first shot 9/10, but apparently he hit him in the leg. I can't imagine the adrenaline. Clearing the gun by racking the slide is not exactly professional either. But he knew the gun so he kept shooting and kept racking.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

He was already a suspect at that point, his real ID also would have gotten him detained.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And no digital money. Cash only!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

Or just get a LEO badge then you don't have to go through all of that.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Holy shit if people have to be told this then we're fucking doomed.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol remember all the memes about how this is a true professional

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah I remember the people calling that out for being silly.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we're giving notes being caught with the gun and the manifesto also bad. And then going to sit down and eat at a McDonald's while on the run. And wearing a mask in Altoona where he probably could have just walked in with his face showing an not gotten caught because the surveillance photos from the NYPD looked so different. And then giving a police officer a fake ID which gave them probable cause for everything...yeah police are going to catch the fake ID...

He's obviously not a professional hitman. I wonder if NYPD/Feds would have been able to track him down eventually anyway with the evidence left in New York.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably not. If he stayed inside no one would have found him

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he plucked his eyebrows, he’d still be a free man today.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

Rarely do I actually laugh audibly to a comment.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not that I'm advocating anything, but it certainly does make sense to have a change of clothes stashed nearby to change your appearance rather quickly. Just need an effective means of discarding them (maybe set it on fire inside a dumpster? I dunno).

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Just throw them in a random dumpster inside a big food bag. Setting it on fire is no good. Don't start any fires. Hell put them in a donation box, even better.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, like maybe have some barrels ready with flammable material inside. Hash tag planning. 🤪

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protip: It's called Gray Man and there's more to it so get educated and practice.🙂

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup. This is also why protestors are encouraged to wear plain black clothes, like a hoodie, gloves, sunglasses, mask, and black jeans. When everyone is wearing nearly identical clothes, it introduces a lot of reasonable doubt in any resulting security camera footage. It’s called Black Bloc.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Don't wear black block if you're not prepared to be harassed though. Instead wear something theoretically identifiable but bland. Gray shirt, blue jeans, no jewelry, identifiable tattoos covered… You want to look like just another person so that when you walk away nobody thinks you look like a protestor

And for the love of fuck don't wear black block while committing solo crimes. It's about "you just described a lot of people here"

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Explain to me how you chose which words to capitalize.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I believe he's half cummings.

edward believed that things of Importance should be capitalized to emphasize what he was saying and that the start of a sentence or pronouns Don't need to be capitalized if not used in a way of importance.

Mostly I just wanted to ejaculate these words onto screen to make a cummings joke though..

I'ma guess Autocorrect. That shit Be weird sometimes.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online -4 points 1 week ago

In my deleted comment that I can’t see?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

Yes lots of cash. Preferably washed. (Large bill from bank broken into a smaller set of bills that didn’t come out of the atm, since banks can track serial numbers)

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One can only learn and do better next time.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or be censored by these US government paid mods ;)

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People need to just stop discussing Minecraft on .world.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

we need to inspire more people to play minecraft

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But it’s fun to get them all hot and bothered.

[–] youstolemyname@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's your advice for getting out of the city without being tracked?

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

Well, don’t carry a phone. Walk. Change your clothes a few times. Add glasses, a new hat. That kinda stuff. You could also go camp out in the woods until you know what the news coverage is.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He got out. He simply got on a bus. That wasn't the problem. It was getting in that was the problem, that's where his face was captured on camera. As to how to solve that... You're on your own for that.

[–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

In the first photos to come out, i thought his eyebrows were fake and thought, fuck this guy went the extra mile, but i guess they were real and he did just enough to do what he planned and not a lot extra

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

It really something to post online

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If I ever did something crazy, I'd thoroughly burn those clothes when I'm done.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Walmart generic Russel hoodie

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 10 points 1 week ago

MAGA hat. Orthopedic shoes. Inflatable belly to change your shape.