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New headline: Thugs managed to steal $4.7 billion that they would previously have been unable to steal.
Taxation is theft.
Always one of you silly buggers commenting these kinds of stories isn't there.
But you don't understand, see, he didn't consent to being taxed, therefore it's theft.
Be kind to them, they were kidnapped and imprisoned for many years since birth. The earlier years involved many forms of humiliating torture.
Yep. Glad to be of assistance.
Why?
Roads, schools, fire department,...
The large one defense budget (possible theft here)...
Why do you think "taxation is theft"?
Because they want the benefits of a civilized society but think they shouldn’t have to pay for them
I bet it's that the think they will one day own the benefits of a civilized society, and want to preemptively pull the ladder up while making money off the backs of everyone else. You know, like a parasite.
Man, I remember middle school...
Taxes are the subscription fee one pays to live in a society. Don’t like that? Go live somewhere else.
There is no land on this planet that has not been claimed by government goons, so there is nowhere else to go.
Edit: Okay, that is not quite true. But for the most part, it is. The only exception I'm totally aware of at the moment is Gornyasiga, which became Liberland. Now that I find to be an interesting project and something that seems like it would be interesting to participate in.
All of Antarctica, though that's been designated entirely for science by international treaty.
Plenty of land is claimed but uncontrolled. Just get some like-minded people together and set up camp. I'm sure it'll go fine.
Oh yes, I read a book about that and it was quite funny actually. The Free State Project is actually something I am interested in and have considered moving for myself, but it's still in the United States, which is under the tyranny of the federal government, so it might not be worth it. Unless they succeed in actually seceding from the Union.
I think you missed the point of the book, the FSP is a failure. You can't build a society of people who reject society.
Libertarians want to create a voluntary society which is by definition a society.
Only if it works (it doesn't).
Let me know after you move to a region with no taxes. I’ll come kill you and take all your stuff since there’s no justice system.
So you don't like schools, roads, public healthcare, having a police force to protect the citizens? You realize taxes pay for those right? And without them, if you get robbed, there will be no police to help you.
Also, did you know the bourgeoisie steal way more from you than the taxes you pay?
Only one argument here- the police don't protect anyone, they protect rich people's property. It's been proven in court that they have no duty to "protect and serve" the people. If you get robbed right now, right this second, and call the police, they will come and take a statement from you, asking the value of the missing money and items, print it on a sheet of paper and file it in a drawer (or on a computer system).
The concept of money is theft, taxation is how the money-printing thugs keep it from inflating itself out of existence.
It sure doesn't seem to be working because it's still costing more and more all the time. So they're printing it faster than they're taking it away. But that's not surprising since the government doesn't tax itself.
What in the world are you talking about? The government doesn't exist to profit, it's not a corporation despite shitty people's ideas that it should be run like one. Why would its revenue, which is all spent, be taxed? Are you saying taxes should be taxed? Where would the tax on government revenue even go?
Precisely.
The government can either fix this by raising taxes or by reducing the rate at which it allows the banking industry to print money, and neither option is politically viable for obvious reasons.
This comment leads me to believe that you have some fundamental misapprehension as to how money and/or governments work.
Governments create money so they can pay people to do things. If a government tried to tax its own payments then it'd just be paying itself with dollars that never had a chance to circulate through the economy. Even in concept, this is a waste of time and energy. The only real effect would be artificially inflated numbers for government expenses and tax receipts, the total amount of economic activity enabled by those dollars and the total amount of currency removed from circulation would be zero.
The purpose of taxation is to take excess currency out of the economy, and you just can't do that by moving money from one government office to another.
Take it a step further. Private exploitation is still exploitation. Creating an ancap world without public monopoly on force will not remove exploitation or force from the world. Property is theft.