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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is a difference between not jumping into a burning building and not shooting someone running away from you. Once they're fleeing, shooting them is not self-defense just because you're afraid they might come back in the future.

If you don't believe that, when does it stop being self-defense? Maybe they'll come back a decade from now, then surely it's self-defense to break into their home and kill them in their sleep to protect yourself.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

You're talking like the dude was a harmless being who did nothing wrong.

Yes, shooting a human being in the back as they're moving away from you is bad, however this hypothetical doesn't apply in this story.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"When does it stop being self defense?" - not at them turning around. And I'd say you have a right to shoot them till the moment the police come to take over the situation / provide safety for you. Running after someone who is like 500m away to shoot them wouldn't be self defense anymore obviously. And again - "self defense" isn't a black and white situation. It's grey enough where each case needs to be determined individually. But the "bias" belongs with the person whose house they broke into, not with the burglar. A burglar killing someone and saying "they had a gun!!" is 100% murder. A person overreacting / crossing a "line" in self defense deserves leniency if not straight up immunity.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

At this point it's no longer self defense, it's society defense.