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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Because the top 1% really isn't that high and they hold 99% of the wealth. The other 99% of people hold 1% of the wealth. What do you think the annual income to be in the 1% is?

I'll put the rest of my response in a spoiler so you can think about it for a second, or comment it if you want, out of curiosity.

spoilerMost people think the top 1% make millions of dollars annually from the conversations and surveys I've seen. The actual threshold for 1% varies by state, but in 2023, the national average was $652,657. While it is much higher than the average income of ~$37,500, it is not as high as most people think.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If there is anyone who thinks that an income of nearly $700k per year doesn't make someone wealthy, you're insane.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We're not talking just "wealthy", we're talking the top 1% of all income.

Most Americans would probably say people making $100k/yr are "wealthy". That's because the average income is less than $40k. There's a difference between just "wealthy" and the top 1% for most people.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even then, that depends a lot on where you live. $100k/year in California is a lot different than $100k/year in Mississippi.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's edging toward muddying the point. You could also bring heritage (aka "race") into the argument, or age, or disability, et al, and risk doing the same. No one's debating granular data per geophysical location, etc., as this is a median national income bifurcation topic.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

They might also use that term because they confuse it with "rich", and that's a whole other issue: intentionally sub-par (mis)education to maintain the socioeconomic divide.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A third of the wealth in 2021, that didn't increase to 99% since

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

The top 1% have about 42% of the wealth.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Speaking in broad volumetric terms and then switching to simply stating (see: spoiler) the per annum floor for said 1% is sloppy and misleading. Please include the range that the 1% encompasses, earnings wise, to keep your modeling consistent.