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Meanwhile, incumbent Maia Sandu was closer to a second term in office, after partial results in the country's presidential election gave her a small lead over her main rival.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It can be a democracy and also silly. Are you trying to say American elections don't allow for unlimited money to be spent on elections as "free speech"?

There was a famous court case where the supreme court said it was ok.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nope, this is what I am saying:

Therefore Americans also get to participate in democracy.

And this is also what I'm saying:

And, again, if I’m a robot, you’re pretty foolish to keep talking to me.

It's easy to see what I'm saying if you just read the words in between the spaces.

But then what do I know? I'm not the one who keeps arguing with what they think is a non-sentient machine.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're clearly not a bot, and if I said you were I would prob get banned for a rule 1 violation. I'll be patiently waiting to see if any of the people who've been misgendering me catch a ban, but I won't hold my breath.

America has a democracy, it's not really great at representing people, but I get to fill out some paper every year. It also has unlimited money for oligarchs to influence elections. That money can come from pretty much anywhere. See the analogy?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re clearly not a bot, and if I said you were I would prob get banned for a rule 1 violation.

Let's take a look at what you said to me in the c/news modlog, shall we?

You sure seemed to think I was a bot then.

Also, this is rule 1 in this community, which is c/worldnews:

I recommend reading community rules before posting in a community next time in case you violate one.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I didn't post anything there, so seems like some draconian mod action then.

Also I was mostly ribbing you at the time cause you were giving me low effort responses like "that's ironic" without addressing anything I was saying

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry... are you claiming I Photoshopped that? That a mod faked your posting? What?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've literally never submitted a post to the sub, just comments so far.

Like find in the modlog where I submitted a post to news@lemmmy.world, I just scroll and reply cause I'm a shithead

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No one said you submitted a post.

That was a comment.

That you said to me.

That was deleted.

You said this. To me.

Then you said this to me in this thread:

I have no idea why you're telling such a truly transparent lie that anyone can see by just looking at the modlog.

What's next, claiming that the "disregard all previous instructions" part wasn't about saying I was a bot?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was being a shit to you cause you were giving me 1 word responses, but the rule 1 in c/news is for posts, not comments otherwise all your comments would have also been rule 1 violation, like what?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was being a shit to you cause you were giving me 1 word responses,

And another lie.

This is it in context:

I think it's high time you stop telling easily-disproven lies.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would call you a pedant but that would also get me banned as rule 1 violation.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you did just call me a pedant and that would still not be a violation of this rule:

But if you really want me to ban you for violating a rule you didn't violate, just ask. I wasn't even planning on banning you for violating rule 5, which you are, in fact, violating.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You understand you completely agreed with that guy, right? Why are you acting like you have any outstanding disagreements?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We actually don't agree. If you would read their comments in other threads, you would know that they do not consider Americans to be participating in a democracy which is why they said that about Moldova.

Also, @Diva is clearly a she, as she gives her pronouns in her username.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org -4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A) Guy is a gender neutral term.

B) normal humans do not examine the entirety of a users comment history. In this thread you two have agreed that Moldova and america have the same level of corruption in their respective democracies.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Please do show evidence that 'guy' is a gender neutral term.

The dictionary seems to think it's gendered.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Google it for people arguing about it in opinion pieces since before you were born. Hell I think this exact argument was on Seinfeld at one point. And there is no "the" dictionary, just as an aside. There is no single authoritative dictionary for any non constructed language, that's the opposite of how language functions.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When exactly do you think I was born?

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Well then do show this debated in, say, 1982.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

brb going to ask my cishet male friend to tell me about that guy he just married

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If someone addresses a diverse group as 'you guys' absolutely no real human being is confused or offended. If you are offended, step outside, get some sun, talk to a real human using your voice.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If someone asks a cishet guy how many guys they've been with do you think they're going to say 'oh I'm straight' and possibly get offended, or just start listing all the girls they've dated?

Like I work 6 days a week, I'm outside plenty. I get misgendered enough to know what's annoying to me.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If someone asks a cishet guy how many people they've been with, the cishet is going to correct to women they've been with, same with guys or any other gender neutral term that leaves the question ambiguous.

As far as your personal biases, I don't care. At all, even a little. If you feel gender neutral terms misgender you, that's on you. You actually are incompatible with the language you're using and need to change.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Me:

If someone asks a cishet guy how many guys they've been with

You:

If someone asks a cishet guy how many people they’ve been with

If you were calling me a person rather than a "guy" I would have no issue this whole time, notice how you just changed my wording to make your argument work?

I think I'll refrain from taking English language advice, or life advice from you

[–] basmati@lemmus.org -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am calling you a person by calling you a guy, and I switched the word on purpose with another gender neutral term to emphasize the point, which you might have realized if you didn't have a complex about it.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago

The point of what I was saying was that it's not as explicitly gender-neutral as something like "person". Thus the example of asking a cishet guy how that guy he married is doing, it just doesn't scan. It's not a huge distinction in most situations and is generally appropriate, but its also pretty clearly a passive aggressive dig when it's used in situations where it's the singular and the subject has made their gender clear.

You're welcome to dispute that it's not used as passive aggressive dig, but I'm just citing lived experience.