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It’s the first arms shipment to Israel to be announced by the administration since it put another arms transfer — consisting of 3,500 bombs — on hold this month. The administration has said it paused that earlier transfer to keep Israel from using the bombs in its growing offensive in the crowded southern Gaza city of Rafah.

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[–] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes I want you to explain how the extreme brutality of what Hamas soldiers did on Oct 7th compares to Israel relating. Have you watched the videos? I'm not denying the treatment of Palestine citizens by Israel but that does not give Hamas the right to do what they did on Oct 7th. Again watch the videos Hamas themselves recorded during the attack. They killed those people because their religion told them to. Hamas themselves said they will keep doing it again and again. I understand the death toll is high. But again what would you rather do? I'm just trying to understand your logic. I don't know how to wage war but I can take an educated guess that it's pretty difficult to tell the difference between a Gaza citizen and a Hamas solders as they don't wear any kind of uniform and purposely hide amongst civilians. I'm not defending killing civilians in asking what your alternative strategy would be. Or how you think Israel and us should respond. Because zero response is an unacceptable answer.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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So why aren't you calling for Israel's government to be wiped out when they've spent decades killing way more civilians?

I don't think you understand that part.

If you think that should happen to Hamas, but not Israel's government.

Then you're just saying Palestinians have no human rights but Israelis do.

Like, you're mad at someone punching back, but not the person who spent decades punching first.

[–] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well if I'm being honest from what I know it sure doesn't seem like Israel punched first. Can you educate me in what you mean by killing more civilians? Like are you talking about similar retaliatory attacks killing civilians more civilians. Because currently I understand why is Israel is killing more civilians. I'm not arguing it's right. I don't think there is a right answer here. I do think the context of the attacks matters. Hamas has stated very clearly they intend on perpetrating Oct 7th again and again. Jews being in their holy land is literally against their religion they have said this repeatedly. You can ask a Hamas solder why he's fighting and he will tell you this. Can you provide an alternative to what Israel is doing? I've asked several times. I wish I had an answer.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here's an example from 2021

https://abcnews.go.com/International/100-civilians-killed-1000-wounded-israel-intensifies-attacks/story?id=77685310

But you keep saying you have no knowledge on this subject at all...

You shouldn't be asking for random social media accounts to explain shit like this.

Like, is this really how you think it's best to learn about geopolitics?

Asking strangers online?

It's not like this is some crazy niche.

It's just hard for me to believe you're sincerely asking these questions and are so opinionated that Israel is in the right. I'm not responding anymore.