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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I feel underrepresented, why don't white dudes have an offensive caricature/stereotype? =(

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 94 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

You know you had to do it to 'em

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 56 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Because "white" is a category of exclusion, defined by being not not-white. It is vague and historically flexible - it may or may not include Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks or Poles depending on who you ask and where & when you happen to be at the time of asking.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Amusingly, quite a lot of people still excuse Armenians and Azerbaijani people, despite them literally living in the Caucasusn and being the definition of Caucasian

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Also may not include Latin Americans, Slavs or mixed race people

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago

Russians and Germans historically tend to exclude each ofher.

I started using non-whites as a broad category of every race / ethnicity that is excluded by the US mainstream, specifically the transnational white power movement.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

While technically correct, saying it's a category of exclusion kind of makes it sound negative, when it's exclusive quality is basically defined by privilege. Whether Italians, Spaniards, Irish, Greeks, or Poles counts basically entirely depends on how normalized and privileged they are in any given greater subsect.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

That makes a lot of sense! I've wondered why sometimes white just feels like a non-race

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Depends on your traditional definition of "white" but Notre Dame has the "Fighting Irish" as mentioned by @HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Except this is a source of pride for the Irish. It was first coined for the Irish immigrant soldiers who fought for the Union during the Civil War in what became called the Irish Brigade.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Ooh, this is a pretty good one

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's that picture of an American Indian man wearing a "Caucasians" shirt floating around the internet, and every time I see it I can't help but laugh. Edit yeah someone has already posted it in this thread.

Also, do the Minnesota Vikings count?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago