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Bro, everytime I get the select all the 'x' tiles (motorcycle, bicycle, bus, etc) one I never know if it means "all" of them, like even ones with just a little bit on the tile. Does it want the tires, too? It's bullshit. Never seems to be correct, what I select.
I've always done any square that includes any part of the thing, so the tire on the bus or the helmet of the motorcycle rider. That no longer works for me though, recently I keep getting more images and they seemingly never stop so I just give up on whatever I was trying to load. Its pretty ridiculous how shit the internet has become.
By now I'm up to filling one of these things. If they show me a second one, I'm out. Not wasting my time training some AI
I think they don't train AI with captchas anymore. That used to be the case 10 years ago when we put in all the house numbers for google maps. but as far as I know they learned to do it cheaper without the captcha service. as of now (and for some time already) the results are just wasted.
Half of them are literally traffic identification and i am skeptical of those 3d orientation ones also.
For some time I've occasionally used the ones for the visually impaired because they were easier to get right. But they also messed those up. I get a load of fire hydrants, cars, stairs and bicycles and motorcycles and traffic lights. Sometimes the pictures just repeat. I don't think the stock of images is that big. But they could look at other things instead of just correctness. Like your mouse movement and how long it takes you. Not sure if they do that.
Ok, part of the bus.
The helmet is not part of a motorcycle. I will fail that captcha every time if it requires it.
You're training AI on road safety, the head of the rider is the most important part of the motorcycle i would argue
Shh, the AI is listening.
Without their heads, they're powerless.
They're training for a car.
The passenger and their equipment are part of the hazard.
Except I used to assume the same thing, but I failed every time I didn't include the rider. Once I started including all the squares with the rider(s) as well, I started passing a lot more.
"select the bikes" That's a motorcycle and that's a moped. Those don't count-uh I fucking guess they do?
"Select the bus" Bro that's an intersection at 200 feet.
"Type the Captcha letters" Is that a lowercase r or a capital T?
Lowercase L and uppercase i are so fucking problematic
I found out recently that the letter captcha aren't case sensitive most of the time
IKR! i try and solve the CAPTCHA and theres a tiny 5 nanometer slice of crosswalk on another tile, and i have no idea if i need to click it or not. And then sometimes you don’t have that issue, and you click all the correct tiles, and then it just takes you to another one, and another one, and another one… they really need to improve it
Bingo! You can't figure out the rules.
Because I think the "rules" are based on what other people did
I select every little bit, which works, but there might be some wiggle room
I don't think it matters, as that isn't the real test. Instead, it's testing whether you are "behaving" as a human. Mouse movements, hesitation etc.
@kambusha@sh.itjust.works Then why does it keep repeating it if I get a tiny detail or a letter wrong?
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To give you hope... and despair. In the end, it wants to witness your human suffering. Shake that mouse.
Yeah, and if you move the cursor convincingly enough, it will just give the check mark without showing any pictures.
It starts checking your browser, input devices, screen info, etc, before you even click the are you human box.
I suspect it knows you’re human and keeps track of those people who are good at clicking the image, so they can harvest more training data. They know who will keep trying, and give them more images to verify.
Ah. Smarter than it appears.
Have you considered that maybe you are a robot?
Beep boop
they are evolving
Yes, every part, even the slivers. And the tires.
If it's like microscopic I just ignore it. Generally works pretty well. Trust your gut instincts.
Do it slowly and don't be consistent, sometimes I select the tile with 3 pixels of the thing its supposed to contain, sometimes I leave 2 or 3 tiles that clearly contain the thing, sometimes I just select a tile that doesn't even match. Idk, it always works, I suppose the erratic behavior is what shows them I'm human or smth
It looks what most people do and people are lazy, so, i guess, select only the fully covered tiles?