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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I would say DS9 was progressive.

If the topic is woke Star Trek, it's rather Discovery.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

woke is not a bad word. don't try to make it so.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you were making it bad for yourself, I haven't said that. It's a different thing Discovery sucks ass anyway.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that's not what you said though. you said one was progressive and the other was woke.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Discovery is just shitty writing and bad characters, the wokeness is the least of its problems

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I agree that discovery has bad writing but that's the only reason it is bad

It doesn't have to do with progressiveness which the entirety of star trek has

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 3 points 4 months ago

Definitely, but I'm still not happy with how progressiveness is handled in Discovery, which comes back to the bad writing. I mean, I like that they have a non-binary character. But that they made a semi-big deal out of it makes no sense in-universe imo. Usually, Star Trek would just have a character that's non-binary and everyone would just go with it, showing how in an ideal world coming-out is either not necessary or not more than a simple correction.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

haven't said Discovery was shit because of its overwokeness, it has its serious issues on its own