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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One of my favorite examples of the difficulty in idiot-proofing things comes from a national park ranger talking about the difficulty of designing a bear-proof garbage can. He said "There is considerable overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest humans."

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, yeah.... You can make a can so secured a bear definitely won't get in; but will people go to the effort to use it then?

Definitely some overlap there.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And I think that hits on the truth, which makes this less "iamverysmart". It's not that the tourists are dumb, it's that they're new and not willing to pay much attention to things like trash can design. 1% of a normal person's attention presents a lot like a really dumb person.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is it 1%? Maybe when they first try to open it they're distracted But when doesn't open and now they're concentrating on the problem and still fail, then we have to kinda own up to the fact that a lot of people aren't smarter than a bear.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago

I'd be pretty distracted by the bear waiting behind me for his go.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think if they can score 100 on an IQ test, they can figure out any reasonable trash can eventually, assuming the moving parts are visible. Many people would rather just litter.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

100 is the average, implying half the population is lower than that, but otherwise, sure

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

i’m not really sure what IQ has to do with this. it was originally designed to measure people’s proficiency in school. it was not designed to be a general measure of intelligence. that was something that was co opted by eugenicists.

here’s a quote from Simon Bidet, the original creator of the IQ test, about his thoughts on the eugenicists using his test:

Finally, when Binet did become aware of the "foreign ideas being grafted on his instrument" he condemned those who with 'brutal pessimism' and 'deplorable verdicts' were promoting the concept of intelligence as a single, unitary construct.

you can read more about this stuff on his wikipedia page. (the quote is from wikipedia)

even to this day, there is quite a bit of doubt as to how accurately IQ measures “general intelligence”

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A bear has time and motivation to keep trying over and over again to get into the garbage. People are generally much less determined to figure it out.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I used to see people charitably, much like you do, until very recently. After witnessing for myself people staring into the sun and injuring themselves after being repeatedly warned, I now realize there are a substantial number of people who simply have rocks clattering around inside their skulls instead of brains