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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I watched Jon Stewarts piece about Israel Palestine and he joked about how the UN can't get anything done with absolutely no mention that it is everyone voting for a ceasefire and the USA voting to veto everything.

It isn't the UN that is doing nothing, it is the veto rules that allows the USA and other countries to throw out the collective good in order to protect empire.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Weird...

I remember him mentioning it in both his recent episodes.

Pretty sure he even mentioned how when the US vetos something like this, we always send a Black person to do the veto. But that bit might have been from somewhere else.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's what I've been trying to tell people for almost two decades: the UN isn't inherently ineffective, but the Big 5 makes it so by vetoing almost every important resolution.

If we take away that veto and grant the UN real enforcement power, it could make the world a much better place for the vast majority of humanity.

The 5 and the billionaires whose interests align with them would never permit such justice, though 😮‍💨

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

If we take away that veto and grant the UN real enforcement power, it could make the world a much better place for the vast majority of humanity.

I like to dream too, but if you remove the veto and give the UN enforcement powers, the UN would dissolve damned near overnight. The big players play because they can control the narrative and know that the UN is effectively toothless. You give them teeth and you're going to see every right wing party in the world lose their shit about sovereignty or rev even harder at the derp state.

Now, that's not to say it's a bad idea at all. In fact I agree with you that it should be done. I just have no faith that the necessary changes wouldn't also destroy it.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's called the Security Council, and if it didn't exist, we would have nuked ourselves into dust at this point.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

This is just false info. It exists to keep public record of communication.

All the nuclear powers talk to each other all the time without any need for the UN. US and Russia even have a direct land line to each other.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Shoulda, coulda, woulda.