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Ok let's give a little bit of context. I will turn 40 yo in a couple of months and I'm a c++ software developer for more than 18 years. I enjoy to code, I enjoy to write "good" code, readable and so.

However since a few months, I become really afraid of the future of the job I like with the progress of artificial intelligence. Very often I don't sleep at night because of this.

I fear that my job, while not completely disappearing, become a very boring job consisting in debugging code generated automatically, or that the job disappear.

For now, I'm not using AI, I have a few colleagues that do it but I do not want to because one, it remove a part of the coding I like and two I have the feeling that using it is cutting the branch I'm sit on, if you see what I mean. I fear that in a near future, ppl not using it will be fired because seen by the management as less productive...

Am I the only one feeling this way? I have the feeling all tech people are enthusiastic about AI.

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[โ€“] TheBat@lemmy.world 130 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I'm not worried about AI replacing employees

I'm worried about managers and bean counters being convinced that AI can replace emplpyees

[โ€“] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It'll be like outsourcing all over again. How many companies outsourced then walked back on it several years later and only hire in the US now? It could be really painful short term if that happens (if you consider severeal years to a decade short term).

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Given the degree to which first-level customer service is required to stick to a script, I could see over half of call centers being replaced by LLMs over the next 10 years. The second level service might still need to be human, but I expect they could be an order of magnitude smaller than the first tier.

[โ€“] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're supposed to be on script but customers veer off the script constantly. They would be extremely annoyed to be talking to AI. Not that it would stop some companies but it would be terrible customer service.

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's what tier 2 service would be for. But the vast majority of calls are people wanting to execute a simple order or transaction, or ask a silly question they could have googled.

If your problem can be solved by a bot, and it means you can be done immediatelu and don't need to be on hold for 20m+ waiting for t2 support, you're going to prefer it.

Also, we've come a long way in just 2-3 years. It will be very difficult for us to talk about how good the experience will be in 5-10 years.

[โ€“] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If your problem can be solved by a bot, then an old fashioned touch-tone phone menu would be an entirely sufficient solution, no "AI" needed.

If not, then plugging an LLM into your IVR will never be worth the expense since the customer will need to talk to a human anyway.

"AI" is a bubble. Sure, it might have some niche applications where its viable, but it's heavily overpromised and due for disinvestment this year.

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And yet, we don't use touch-tone menus, bots that suck are already commonplace. An LLM bot could stand to dramatically improve the user experience, and would probably use the same resources that the current bots do.

Simple things like "I want to fill a prescription" or "I want to schedule a technician" or "do you have blah in stock" could be orchestrated by a bot that sounds human, and people would prefer that to traversing a directory tree for 10m.

I don't even want to think about how someone would implement a customer facing inventory query using a touch-tone interface, let alone use that.

[โ€“] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I fail to see how adding an LLM to an IVR could improve that situation. Keywords like "fill perscription", "schedule technician", and "do you have [blank] in stock" are already present and don't need any kind of text generation to shunt a caller into the appropriate queue or run a query on a warehouse database.

Where, exactly, do you think an LLM could contribute other than, like, a computer generated bedtime story hotline or something?

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I fail to see how adding an LLM to an IVR could improve that situation.

Ok. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, nor am I the one responsible for this, I'm just very confident this will inevitably happen. Only time will tell.

[โ€“] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

Oh, no question. I'm sure someone will think it's a good idea and waste a lot of money on it.

[โ€“] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

I was a supervisor of a call center up until recently and yea, this is definitely coming. It's was already to the point where they were arguing with me about hiring enough people because soon we'll have an AI solution to take a lot of the calls. You can already see it in the chat bots coming out.

[โ€“] Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do you know any examples of which companies that have done this? I'm not asking to be facetiois, just genuinely curious.

[โ€“] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

The one I work for did this years ago before I worked here. I already have enough personal info about myself out there so not gonna name the company lol I know I've seen that at other companies too.

[โ€“] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 9 months ago

Copilot is just so much faster than me at generating code that looks fancy and also manages to maximize the number of warnings and errors.

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

That will happen. And if they're wrong, they'll crash and burn. That's how tech bubbles burst.

[โ€“] fievel@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Clearly my main concern... But after reading a lot of reinsuring comments, I'm more and more convinced that human will always be superior

[โ€“] Artyom@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

This is their only retaliation for thr fact that managers have already been replaced by git tools and CI.