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  1. The Bible says Jesus died for our sins.
  2. Assuming that doesn't mean some of our sins and it means all of our sins.
  3. Therefore, Hitler goes to Heaven too.

Hitler Goes To Heaven Too

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

According to the Bible, Heaven is a perfect cube 12,000 stadia on a side (approximately 1400 miles). Estimates of the total number of people who have ever lived that I've been able to dig up online are around 100 billion, but all of those estimates involve projecting populations back to 190,000 B.C.E. when in this scenario we know that the population started in 4,004 B.C.E. with exactly two. So 100 billion must be an overestimate, but thanks to the exponential nature of population growth it's probably not a drastic overestimate. Using that figure, each human can have a cubical volume 485 meters on a side. That's quite large, especially given that we're working with an overestimate. You could halve it to account for common social spaces and access corridors and utilities and whatnot and still have an enormous private area for each human.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it was my Southern Baptist upbringing, but where in the Bible does it describe this borg cube? I mean perfect cube.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Revelation. It's not heaven, per se, but the city at the center of the new creation. It takes the place of Eden.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A city? That's even worse. This is getting more dystopian by the minute.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How so? What is your vision of heaven?

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Billions of people living for eternity inside a cube sounds like the premise for a sci fi, and I'm betting the protagonist wants out.

What is your vision of heaven?

I didn't have a Christian upbringing, but I thought they wanted to sit around playing the harp and basking in the presence of their god. I had no idea they meant in a finite cubic area, let alone a city.

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hold it, maybe it doesn't have car centric infrastructure.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

@InfiniteStruggle it probably has Angel-centric infrastructure.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@FaceDeer thank you for doing the maths, I love it. 0.4km is quite big. I could have a garden.

But your mention of access corridors etc makes it sound like this whole thing is indoors, like the middle parts of a cruise ship or office block. Is that canonical? Because it sounds more like a hellscape.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

That would not improve things.

I'm picturing this organization as being more like Avenue 5 than the starship Enterprise, though.

[–] ipha@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Turns out the heaven is just the back rooms.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's assuming that for right now. What if it went on for another billion years or so. What of all the humans descendants?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bible promises the End of Days is soon, so we're probably safe on that front. Failing that, just make sure the AIs that wipe us out don't have souls. Or alternately that they have souls that can run efficiently and happily in a relatively small server farm, for efficient use of space.

Heck, upload humans into those servers too and that gives Heaven an enormous capacity.

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

The bible has been promising that for some time now.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol, I love that it has access corridors and utilities.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Wouldn't be a very good Heaven if the toilets didn't work.