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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

My Spanish isn't the best, but I'm pretty sure that translates to "for another milk was made," which perfectly fits with the LOTR quote they're referencing.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but for does not translate into por in this context. The only word that works here is pero. There is no literal word for for (as in but) in Spanish and the closest approximation is pero. Source: I am Spanish

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind when I make that joke again (and I'm sure I will).

[–] TheCoolerMia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 9 months ago

You can translate "for" in that sentence to "pues"

Also remove the "un" because else you're saying "an another milk" or if you want to leave it for extra funny points make it "una" because "leche" is femenine

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The only word that works here is pero

Careful with that r button though, as perro would be a downright silly word to use in this context.

[–] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

In the English quote, doesn't "for" really mean "because", not "but"?

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A Greek and Canadian disagreeing on Spanish makes me feel like my mono and thee quarters linguistic ass needs to try harder.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not Canadian, contrary to my username. I'm actually Spanish, so I imagine that I'm the one who would be correct considering it's my native language

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Am I supposed to believe you’re not furniture either? Nice try you shifty stack of maple drawers.

Edit: ¿“Por” no es “for” en ingles?

¿Para qué no les dijiste cómo?

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Por does mean for, but only in specific contexts. Here's a list. It also can mean by, through, because of, and to, to name a few.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Isn’t it strange how languages have tons of homonyms we hardly notice while having synonyms for almost anything else? Thanks for sharing I’ll check that out.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Shifty stack of maple drawers" is this best thing I've read all week. Thank you for that.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

You’re welcome thanks yourself

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Prepositions are probably one of the parts of speech that is the hardest to translate in any language.

I learned Swedish as a second language, and it feels like "at", "for", and "on" are completely randomly interchanged, even though each word has a direct translation and both Swedish and English are Germanic languages at their core. There are multiple forms of "to" in Swedish too.

The "usage notes" section for the Swedish word for "On" is an experience lol
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/p%C3%A5#Usage_notes

Luckily, they're also the most forgiving part at any speech of mistranslate.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It’s no wonder doctors in linguistics dip into philosophy as often as they do, incredible minds to know enough languages to study them. Polyglots are cool

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Despite the coincidence that my name happens to be a Greek place, I am American; specifically Californian where knowing Spanish is a good thing to know. lol

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

tbh between you and the Grecian parent comment I thought I might’ve uncovered the fediverse Greek mafia lol

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

That's what I'm going for, but my Spanish kinda stinks (despite three years of high school Spanish, lol)