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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 296 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And if they don't vote, it won't matter.

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 113 points 11 months ago (5 children)

So help them vote. Volunteer with efforts to get out the youth vote. Push for universal mail in voting where you are, or at least early voting. Help get politicians and initiatives on the ballot that they actually care about.

Shaming and complaining about the demographic you want to reach accomplishes nothing.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Obligatory-

If you are a legal resident of Wisconsin, and are not currently serving time or on paper, you can register to vote entirely online if you want, and you can request absentee ballots for all elections for the entire year (no reason needed, but necessary annual renewal, it’s my New Year’s resolution every year because it’s so easy to accomplish. entirely free of charge ofc.).

Just go to www.myvote.wi.gov to register, request absentee ballots, check your registration, or find your polling place. If you have any difficulty with your registration, you can find your local rep and contact them directly.

Please vote. Please vote for your own wellbeing. Please.

Edits to fix link redirect per convo below

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

This is why I love Washington. Everyone has an OPT OUT absentee ballot. Everyone gets one at your address. Every election. All the time. The same address that’s on your ID. It’s amazing.

[–] ccryx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hi, your link (the actual link, not the link text) is to https://www.reddit.comwww.myvote.wi.gov .

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So you went somewhere different than I did… weird..

For me it comes up https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/www.myvote.wi.gov

I typed it in though.. the link and link text are the same, so that shouldn’t happen.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

i see what happened.

you typed [www.myvote.wi.gov](www.myvote.wi.gov) in your comment's source. for it to register as a URL you have to put https before the link inside the parentheses: [www.myvote.wi.gov](https://www.myvote.wi.gov).

~~for me it goes to https://pawb.social/post/www.myvote.wi.gov (my instance, error: couldnt_find_post)~~

~~in your comment's source it is written [www.myvote.wi.gov](www.myvote.wi.gov), which shouldn't behave like this. looks like a lemmy bug maybe?~~

~~i have two theories:~~

~~1. the bug is related to typing a link directly, as in pasting a link in the comment, like example.com (i typed it without brackets for a name or parentheses for a URL)~~

~~or~~

~~2. it's related to links explicitly starting with www, such as what you linked.~~

~~for testing purposes:~~

~~www.myvote.wi.gov~~

~~www.myvote.wi.gov~~

~~you can report lemmy issues at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues. i searched on there to see if it was already reported but couldn't find anything, though if you want to i'd recommend searching.~~

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Hey thanks, I changed it and that did the trick.

I guess it makes sense that would be a thing. I’m so used to everything accommodating for that lack, though lol

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shame ✍️ demographics ✍️ for ✍️ helpful ✍️ advice

My state’s on it!

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't work. Every swiss citizen older than 18 receives them at home. The younger generation doesn't vote.

I'm older now and the older I'm the more people of my age around me vote. It's depressing. I try each time to make the younger vote but it's not working. And, I didn't miss one. Next one is the 3rd March. I will try again.

Don't take me wrong if I convince if just one younger person, it's a win.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

You got this 🫡

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope things will change, but we still have abysmal turnout. TX started allowing early voting over 40 years ago and we still struggle to get people to the polls. Early voting is a span of 2 weeks, where in the 1st week, polls are required to be open for at least 9 hours and can be open from 6 AM to 10 PM on the weekday and shortened hours on the weekend, and in the 2nd week, polls are required to be open at least 12 hours a day and typically have the same hours as election day. Yet we still have virtually no lines through all early voting and a massive line on election day.

It doesn't help that the news only bangs the final day of voting into peoples' heads.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Many Republicans vote exactly on election day because they are being fed lies that early voting and mail in voting are riddled with fraud.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That explains a few people, but doesn't explain why everyone else hasn't been utilizing the early voting system for the 40 years prior to 2020. TX cities are pretty blue and their early voting lines are always very short.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I've been helping my fellow zoomers by figuring out what their townships/town wards/city districts are, then what their local/state/federal legislative/executive/judicial districts are, then who's running for what position, then where to vote and (primaries and generals).

Information is power!

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But both sides are the same or my vote is worthless or it's too hard to vote or something

[–] Clam_Cathedral@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That said, election day not being a federal holiday is a crime.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In Australia it's always on a Saturday, and it's compulsory to vote. Works OK for us.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

In Canada, we get mail in voting, advanced voting and voting stations are everywhere. I've never had to wait more than 5 mins to vote and the closet voting station is a 2 min drive from my house. They're also open late and most employers give us time off to vote. Not sure if there's a law for that but voting here is easy af yet some people still don't bother.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

In Finland it's on Sunday. And with I think two weeks to vote beforehand.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Which, while a good idea, still screws over the working class that don't get federal holidays off. In fact in many industries they are mandatory work days because of the increased business.

State and federal opt-out mail ballots for all I say.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

It is genuinely too difficult in some places thanks to voter suppression.

[–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if you think both parties are the same you're living in a fkn alternate reality. Only one part is seeking to end democracy in America and set up reeducation camps

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml -5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, those are all actually true.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but political engagement can't revolve around voting.

It's shit. You have to navigate a beurocracy and don't even always have choices down the ballot. And when you do, you often have no idea who the candidates are beyond some half baked Facebook page. It's also a huge burnout pit. Put months of stress into a binary outcome you can barely control. And even that is if you're engaged in canvassing and etc, otherwise it's just a chore.

Youth need to be mobilized in long term action projects. Something like Encode Justice for example, where they make civic engagement a part of their daily life, is far superior. It's also harder, but that comes with doing something actually impactful.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Things can change, though. California voted for an open primary in 1996 (think that was the year) and now you can participate in either one. Prior to that, you could only vote in the primary for the party you registered with.

[–] nybble41@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Open primaries invite strategic voters to sabotage the party they want to lose rather than supporting the candidate they want to win.

Of course you can still do that with closed primaries—you just have to register as the party you want to vote for in the primaries, ignoring your own preferences. Nothing forces you to vote for your registered party in the general election. It's slightly more involved this way since you would need to change your registration more frequently, and commit to it earlier, but that isn't much of a hurdle.

[–] leo@lemmy.l0l.city 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sadly some of them are republican

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted - you're 100% correct. People voting against their own demographic is nothing new.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews